2015 modelling Program?

[211476]

I doubt that the guys down at 2015 used Lightray to export an SKD, what program did they use? And why didn't they release a modeler in the tool pack? It would be a lot cheaper than pulling out $100? for a license

[bdbodger]

The SDK for Spearhead included plugins for 3Dmax 3 and 4 so I assume that is what they used for it I don't know what 2015 used but it was probably the same .

[Killerdude]

I doubt that the guys down at 2015 used Lightray to export an SKD, what program did they use? And why didn't they release a modeler in the tool pack? It would be a lot cheaper than pulling out $100? for a license

$100 sounds pretty reasonable to me. I crindge when the price climbs to 3, 4 or more thousands of dollars like many AutoDesk products.

[Rookie One.pl]

Packaging a modeler with the SDK? Dude, do you even realize how much work needs to be put into creating a modeling program?

I'm working on import/export plugins for Blender, a free modeling program, as a means of exercise and research on the SKD and SKC formats for the OpenMoHAA project, can't say when they'll be ready, though.

[Devil_Dog]

The SDK for Spearhead included plugins for 3Dmax 3 and 4

Are you saying I can make models with these?

[211476]

do those plugins work with 3ds Max 5?

[Rookie One.pl]

Nope. The plugin API is changed each version and it's not backward-compatible.

[bdbodger]

The SDK for Spearhead included plugins for 3Dmax 3 and 4

Are you saying I can make models with these?

If you can even find those versions 3Dmax is up to version 8 or 9 right now . I don't know for sure but I think you would have exported an skl file and then used the skl_2_skX.exe utility included with the tools to convert to a mohaa or sh model . If you run skl_2_skX.exe in a cmd window with no paramaters it says

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************ ERROR ************
max2skl animname [-force] [-scale num] [-dest name]
                 [-ignore filename] [-origin originname] [-reverse]
                 [-verbose] [-nolod] [-noclampz] [-zeroz] [-noorigin]
                 [-clearz] [-clearxy] [-baseframe] [-maxbones num]
                 [-weightthreshold num]
                 [-offset x y z] [-clearx] [-cleary] [-loop]
                 [-zerox] [-zeroy] [-destdir dirname]
                 [-dest filename] [-ignoreflags] [-fps num]
                 [-newbaseframe]
                 [-morphbase filename] [-morphanim filename]
                 [-nologfile]
                 [-attachedModel]
                 [-doRotation]
                 [-animtype <fullbody|movement|action|hands|morphonly>]
                 [-speedscale scale]
                 [-mohaa]

notice the -mohaa paramater you would used that for a mohaa model and -newbaseframe for a new model. Now that I think about it Milkshape could also export an skl file but it has mohaa plugins so can't see the point in that accept that Milkshape exported skb files and I think skl_2_skX.exe created skd files .

[Devil_Dog]

OK, thanks for explinations. Not really up with the modeling programs.

[Rookie One.pl]

Milkshape's plugins are useless, they allowed for exporting static models only, and the SKL plugin for it didn't export everything properly.

There are exportes for Elite Force's SKL files, however, and I believe their format is compatible with MoHAA's. As Bodger said, you can use max_2_skl (a somewhat misleading name, eh?) to produce SKDs out of them.

[211476]

can anyone at least tell me where I can download a trial of 3DS Max 3 or 4? I've searched and I cant find it

[Rookie One.pl]

Bodger already gave you a hint:

If you can even find those versions 3Dmax is up to version 8 or 9 right now .

I don't think there are any trials you can download anymore.

[Devil_Dog]

Try looking for a user forum or blog for the newer versions. Ask if any of them know where to get a copy of the older one.

[211476]

Try looking for a user forum or blog for the newer versions. Ask if any of them know where to get a copy of the older one.

k thanks I'll do that. And if I do find it I'll send a copy to anyone here who needs it

[Salombo]

Going through a lot of trouble for an old software.
LightRay3D will do just fine. The most up-to-date as far as I know.