A very important reminder

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A very important reminder

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This is a reminder to all mappers that you should always keep a backup copy of your map.

Yesturday I lost my version of sub attack through some error and thankfully rox had a copy, but I needed to do a lot of work on it again. If there hadnt been a copy I would have given up and probably left the mapping community as it has taken months to make that map and learn mapping.

Just warning...
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Indeed, this happens all to often: http://www.modtheater.com/forum/showthr ... eadid=7713 :?
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If i ever lose my well-down gonna be released maps, and if my HD get's wiped out, i may:

1)Go into depression for days, stop mapping, and switch game
2)Kill myself :shock:
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Noooo! Please remove option 2 :shock: (or make a real lot of backup copies ;))
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option 3)

Go retro - sart mapping for pong instead
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Post by 7th Es Cyborg »

if you have more than one hd, set up a raid system....
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Post by _Snake_ »

I thought there was a .bak file?

If you go to your mohtools folder, rename the XXX.bak to XXX.map and won't it work? Or is the .bak for the .bsp?
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Post by Jack Ruby »

Before I add any new structures I save out my map with a new filename so I can retrace my steps, when I bsp the map in radiant I often get errors that were not there only 4 brushes ago, for no apparant reason !

I usually end up with about 50 copies of the map in various stages of construction, takes up quite some room on my hard drive but its worth it as I dont panic when my map starts producing errors, just go back to the one from 30 mins ago :)
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:( :( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I was going to release my "First PUBLISHED Map" (note: NOT my first map). Then for some reason when I saved maps I usually have like 20 kinds of files in my Maps folder. I guess its because it makes min files and .bak files. So i decided to delete them. When I clicked yes for the "Are you sure you want to empty the recylce bin?" option I remebered that my map was in there. Now it gone forever. 50 hours of mapping on that map went right down the crapper. :oops: :oops:
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Post by Alcoholic »

You guys are lucky... every once in a while moh radiant crashes but that doesnt stop me... i had just finished the whole outside lod terrain for the truck intro for my map.. then poof moh radiant crashed... if only autosave worked... now i set the auto save for 2 minutes, and whenever it gives me the error that it cant save, i click ok then i manually save it. its a good reminder for me.
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i back up everything on my hd! i have a dvd rewriter, and each disc holds 4gb. so i can back-up my whole 40gb hd with only 10 discs! :D
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Post by panTera »

"I feel your pain, Butch."

o man, I once started playing with Quark6.3 (partial mohaa support). I had used Quark for 4 years but switched to Radiant for mohaa. But quark has an excellent texture browser and some other neat stuff, so I thought, hey why not set it up for mohaa. For some reason I hit a button "clear path", thinking this would only clear the path to the main folder. Guess again, it was actually deleting *all* files from the whole main-folder :shock:
I quickly shut down my computer and I was suddenly feeling all cold and sweaty. "It's not happening, it's not true!" All my custom tiki's, textures, shaders, mapfiles, skyboxes and you name it flashed before my eyes....and....all gone in a few lousy seconds. I almost felt, like... violated.
I started searching the web for Undelete/Recovery-tools but the results were, well..poor. I got to save a few tiki's and a handful of textures, but most files were too much damaged. Man did a learn a lesson. It wasn't like I never made a backup but I just didn't realise how much work I had already done!

Moral: listen to Butch and take his advice.
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I dont work from my Mohaa/ folders, I have another folder set up and I paste my test stuff from there into mohaa, probably saved me a few times from losing everything. Just an idea.
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Pantera..., if only i didn't click the damn mouse..

Post by $ilver@cer »

:oops: Pantera really was furious when that quark 6.4 mistake happened. If only i didn't click that damn button.., we spent hours on finding undelete progs with cracks, but nevertheless we could just spare a little... those darn undelete progs only let u recover up to 64kb per file unless u get one that is worth more then my pc... :shock:

But Pantera is just one ongoing mapper, who can't stop this hobby at all.. 8) Goodluck all, with the mapping and backups, it's a great hobby huh!

Cheers Pantera, your doing great mapping work!

ps: don't forget to backup hey! I guess it has been awhile..
I allso know how it feels, but instead now, i backup with a new cd every two weeks..
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Post by panTera »

hehe, np Silver, you're forgiven. Image I still don't understand how we didn't see it coming. I now use a second hd like Cyborg said. Plus I paste everything in a temp-folder too. But yeah, burning a cd once in awhile won't hurt I guess.
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