wanted mapper!!!

nuggets · Post by **nuggets** » Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:03 pm

it's about time i finally got off my ass and returned the favour of all u guys making maps for me to return 1 for all you guys, but (and yes there had to be a but)

i tend to lose interest after a couple of weeks work

so... what i was thinking, if i was to make the "external frame" of a map, and do all the scripting, would someone want the honour of decorating the bloody rooms

crosses fingers hoping some1 will reply

nuggets · Post by **nuggets** » Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:07 pm

and i forgot to mention...

i'm creating more than enough buildings, so i can add random houses and rooms to the map, so it'll be different every time

(hopefully)

Zip · Post by **Zip** » Sat Jun 14, 2003 2:40 pm

i tend to lose interest after a couple of weeks work

I'm exactly the same

. I haven't touched my map for a week now. I can see how it will be finished in my mind, and it's just a pain to actually make all those damn brushes! And then you have to furnish it all, agh!

Reish Vedaur · Post by **Reish Vedaur** » Sat Jun 14, 2003 3:12 pm

I would love to; I love furnishing rooms ^_^ Actually, if it comes down to it, I'd be happy to do everything inside the houses; windows, doors, floors, walls, stairs...

Sideways · Post by **Sideways** » Sun Jun 15, 2003 5:21 am

Any time I've lost interest in a map, it's been for a good reason. The maps I haven't lost interest on tend to get a lot of praise. The maps I have lost interest with, I go back to at some point, and realize that they suck ass.

I'm not saying your map sucks ass, I'm just saying that if you're losing interest, maybe you're unsatisfied with it... just a thought.

Zip · Post by **Zip** » Sun Jun 15, 2003 10:58 am

I'm not saying your map sucks ass, I'm just saying that if you're losing interest, maybe you're unsatisfied with it... just a thought.

That's exactly it! In it's current state it does suck ass

. I know i need to add all the cool stuff, but that will take ages

nuggets · Post by **nuggets** » Sun Jun 15, 2003 12:05 pm

u've hit the nail on the head 100%

they tend to be good map, from the outside, that's the bit i like making, the interior design however is the bit that causes me so much... what's the word... not hassle as such, more like boredom

i'll still hope to release 1 map before i'm 65 though

panTera · Post by **panTera** » Sun Jun 15, 2003 2:12 pm

"Plan your work and work your plan". I once read that line somewhere and I always -try- to live up to it. When things get really boring and you start to lose interest, that's also when the wrong decisions are being made. You start out with a nice idea and before you know it, it doesn't work out like you planned and because you've spent a couple days on it, you decide to go on with it and see where it ends.
There's nothing wrong with improvising but when a part of the map isn't turning out like you had in mind, remove it and start over. Yes that sux, but this way you can still try to work your plan again, without having to adjust things to the stuff you've already made. So I think it can even be a good thing to not touch the map for a week, do something else, download a couple of maps, make some sketches on paper and go at it again. Just don't rush it.
See the news-section where Surgeon has posted a link to a very interesting article by a talented mapper. That's what I like to do when I got stuck, look for articles on the subject and read what others think.

Gen Cobra · Post by **Gen Cobra** » Sun Jun 15, 2003 2:16 pm

Zip wrote:it's just a pain to actually make all those damn brushes! And then you have to furnish it all, agh!

Making the brushes is the fun of it. I think setting up your own playing field is the best part of mapping for me.

Sideways · Post by **Sideways** » Sun Jun 15, 2003 5:50 pm

I love everything about mapping. Setting up the layout, decorating, furnishing, texturing, all of it! The only thing I truly hate is scripting, because I'm not that good at it, and it's a pain-in-the-ass to get simple things - like loading screens - to work sometimes. I almost always capitalize a word I'm not supposed to, or mis-spell something... very frustrating. I hate text-based programming though.

Jack Ruby · Post by **Jack Ruby** » Sun Jun 15, 2003 11:33 pm

Nuggets, as I already owe you a crate of Stella I would be happy to decorate some rooms for you. Peenemunde seems to be doing well so I guess another collaboration ( not in the French style of collaboration during the war ) would work out well too.

Let me know man, more than happy to help you out.

Sonsai · Post by **Sonsai** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 5:43 am

Gen Cobra wrote:
Zip wrote:it's just a pain to actually make all those damn brushes! And then you have to furnish it all, agh!
Making the brushes is the fun of it. I think setting up your own playing field is the best part of mapping for me.

Same here, making brushes is awesome. Click and drag!

nuggets · Post by **nuggets** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 5:26 pm

cheers Jack!!!

although i really need rooms decorated, this time i'll settle for the stella

nah only kidding

kronenburg please

nah only kidding again, sorry, it's my humor

well at least i get it

anyway where was i, what was this post again... aha of course,

i e-mailed an earlier W.I.P map (work in production) of what i'm trying 2 achieve to Reish Vedaur, but no reply, hmmm... anyway, i'll send you a copy of the map, you'll see the big tall building on the right past the fountain, that's gonna be a hotel, well when i say a hotel, i mean like kind of ermmm... well a hotel i guess, but possibly aswell with offices, the building can change dimensions going more to the left (looking straight at it) and back more, but most of the rooms will need to be the same size, as i'm making the rooms random along with some of the other buildings, phew time for another paragraph...

if ya wanna just start making some furnished houses, and leave the hotel alone until it's got more idenyity then that'd be a good thing, i think... was this really worth another paragraph

ahhh right then... oh bugger it, it's e-mailed and on the way to ya

Reish Vedaur · Post by **Reish Vedaur** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 5:54 pm

well, the thing is that there is only the square.. I can't get a feel for what you're wanting from what you gave me =\

nuggets · Post by **nuggets** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 9:43 pm

ok, i get the idea, you want me to do all the work

this is a map i've not really been working on that long at all, and i'm hoping i'll have the motivation to keep it going and actually finish one, it's growing minute by minute and hour by hour, and then gets changed again the day after

i've started adding more of the housing area around the exit of the square, so if you want 2 start adding the rooms to the back of the buildings in the square that'll be a start,

if ya like i'll send u an upto date version of the map, and decide if u wanna put any input into it, (hopefully you will) it's just really furnishings i get bored with so that's the general "big" want

hope to hear from ya soon,

and JACK, if ur still listening, this doesn't mean ur out of the picture,

hint's for everyone who wants to do multi-user-mapping

make everything a script object when you send them the map, and give it a stupid targetname, that way when you send it, and receive it back, just press 'ctrl' + 'e' and remove all the previous map work

hope u like that tip, i just made it up... i wonder if that'll really work???