Thanks for bailing out on me Jv_map when i needed your help

Stacey · Post by **Stacey** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:43 am

You tried to figure out what was wrong and you couldnt do it so instead you deleted my message at the other mapping forum. I needed your help and you dumped on me. You were so nice and then all a sudden you ignore me and delete me. Youre no friend, and i have no respect for you.

Post by **jv_map** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:52 pm

I didn't delete any posts but if you don't want to respect me I won't help you.

All in the game.

kdja · Post by **kdja** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:58 pm

I deleted the thread on TMT and Pmed you about it.

Also deleted the mirror of this thread on TMT

Kdja

Stacey · Post by **Stacey** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 3:27 pm

i never got your pms. Why are my messages being deleted then? And Jv_map you werent helping me anyway so it really didnt matter, you left me hanging there on purpose because you didnt know how to fix the problem. Atleast say something. Thats what these sites are for. If you dont know why something works for one person and not another then thats fine you should just say so. But you dont run a site that was built to help others and then bail out on someone when you get a little puzzled. And of course you wont help me, thats the way you wanted it in the first place.

Post by **jv_map** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 4:31 pm

Poor guy

Do you seriously think I'm writing tutorials to not help people?
I don't run any of the sites on which you posted.
I don't bail out people.
I know exactly why you're sounds are not working.
I replied with a file on TMT to fix the problem, though it's possibly deleted. Ask kdja about that, the attachment is probably still on line.
Go get a tutorial on politeness.

Stacey · Post by **Stacey** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:00 pm

You can say what you want, i realize you have a reputation to uphold. And you did try to help me in the beginning. You posted a script and then i replied to it giving an example. You said thats all. And then i had a very good understanding of how it works. You did not know how to fix it after i posted my map, and you did not post a reply to that either. I watched it for 2 straight days before i got deleted because tmt runs a dictatorship...which by the way say hello to saddam for me tmt. And as far as "politeness" goes i havent name called, and im not gonna cuss all over the place. My current attitude came from someone ignoring my pleas for help. As far as your tutorials go, of course you write those to help others thats not even in dispute. And quite frankly, now that i know more about how to make custom sounds i can look at your ubersound workaround tutorial and tell you its very vague. Its no wonder i needed help. Youve written a couple of them in such a way that you need further assistance. Which you will provide to a certain extent. The fact is you DID bail out. And as I explained before you were telling me that i need water, but how do i get the water....do i turn on the faucet? do i use hot or cold? Its just too vague and parts of explanations are missing. But as far as your comment goes about me getting a tutorial on politeness, all youve done is basically thrown negativity at me. You just said you know why my sounds dont work. SO once again you dont give an explanation and then you act rude yourself, and then you pretend YOURE the innocent one.

Post by **jv_map** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:44 pm

Jus' a lil' sorry an' I'll send you the fix.

Fair enough imo.

Tutorials are not vague just hard to understand. That's because of the complexity used in the method. I don't know a way to explain it better in a reasonably sized tutorial.

Also keep in mind I've got other things to do and am not always able to help everyone within a couple of days nor do I feel that as an obligation.

Stacey · Post by **Stacey** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 6:12 pm

When i said vague about the udersound work around. Is that it doesnt talk about the steps you take in Radient. I ended having to get the info from someone else. Reading the tutorial over and over again doesnt make much sense. Sure i can make the tiki file and then the precache script. But then what. When i was explained by tlrude i think it was, was how to targetname and use my entities box correctly. All the ins and outs. Ok so then what. Then i found out later how scripting works like

$trigger triggerable
$soundtrigger playsound etc.. etc.
So now i understand how threads work and how it all connects. So i get an overall picture of what the heck im doing and why im doing it. I finally did give up on putting a custom sounds in my map. So in my map script i just threw in a m6l3c ambient background sound and called it finished. Now....if i could just get alliedassault.com to update their page quicker than one week at a time...grrrrr

But to go slightly off the subject. When i posted my map at tmt, i noticed ithad been downloaded 6 times. That scared me and my brother. Have you guys ever had a problem with people submitting maps that aernt their own? 6 times? Thats very scary

Nijnrich · Post by **Nijnrich** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 8:30 pm

Stacey,

Would you please be so kind to keep this kind of personal disputes in private .If you got something personal against somebody, don't post it on a public forum, use the PM instead. By saying sorry for something that is not even his fault, jv_map has earned even higher respect in my opinion

This slugging contest that you're now doing is not doing the community nor you any good. I'm certainly not trying to help you out if this means that you're whining all the time if it doesn't proceeds as you want.
Even worse if this would be the case with everyone why should we even bother to give an answer.

Keep this forum friendly and helpfull that's the only way people are willing to help each other out.
Help is offered on request, not on demand.

kdja · Post by **kdja** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:33 pm

All hail El Presidente Kdja

We simply dont allow maps which contain porn on our forums simple as that.

Try playboy.com maybe you get help there.

Kdja

Post by **Surgeon** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 12:03 am

OK, I've just come back from a nice break to find this.......
If i'd been here from the start I'd maybe have shut this thread down - and if JV-map wanted me to I would - but I don't think hes that kinda guy...
As it is I'm just gonna say a few things

(1) I run this site (pretty much on my own now) as a help to those people that are just starting out mapping for MoHAA. I remember when I first started mapping for Half-Life. It was sites like these that allowed me to learn all the stuff involved. But this site is voluntary. I have a real life and friends who I want to devote some of my time to. Thus answers will not always be instant.

(2) JV-map just contributes tutorials to this site, as do many other people. In respect to his tutorials, I've read through them all and tested them - to insure that they work - he even beat me to finding all this stuff out so in this area I was a newbie. He also spends some of his time kindly answering questions on MoH Mapping and Scripting - this is good, especially as I feel he knows more about the subject than I do

This time he spends is freely given and he isn't obligated to do so - I'm just glad he does.

(3) Please try not to rag on people just because they don't answer ASAP or at all. Many of us are still learning the finer details to MoHAA Modding / Mapping etc

kdja · Post by **kdja** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:49 am

Im still El Presidente right????

kdja

Post by **Surgeon** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:03 am

You can be who u want to be

kdja · Post by **kdja** » Tue Nov 12, 2002 1:31 pm

Cool

But you have more posts here then me so im just spamming now to try and catch up.

The quicker you get a job the better

kdja

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Thanks for bailing out on me Jv_map when i needed your help

Thanks for bailing out on me Jv_map when i needed your help

I never got your pms

You can say what you want

radient