LOD Terrain mapping

Franko74 · Post by **Franko74** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 2:19 pm

I think, the MohRadiant 'll kill me, or drives me crazy:
I like to create Terrain with more textures, but my undertaking is failed.
So:
- i created a terrain (LOD terrain/create from brush with 512x512 unit)
- i added a snow texture to it
- i clicked ctrl+f (Edit facet flags)
- and ctrl+shift+right click on face
..and i wanted to add other texture to selected face/s, but it hadn't to work.

i have seen the forum messages, but i haven't found the answer

Somebody help me, please

bdbodger · Post by **bdbodger** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:23 pm

control+shift+left click on unselected terain to select and texture one 512 x 512 patch . You don't have to make your terain one connected terain you can make other patches too and over lap them a bit .

Franko74 · Post by **Franko74** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:54 pm

Thanks, i 'll try it.
I 'm easy now... i got some Martini

Franko74 · Post by **Franko74** » Mon Jan 05, 2004 6:18 pm

O.K.-O.K. i wanted to write it (shitf+ctrl+right click)..

But its a terrible, and slow method... i must to select 512x512 units and texture it (texture scaling, and bla-bla-bla)

Why isnt a simple, clear way, how i should to make nice map?

.. if i want to add bomb craters, roads, and some textures, need some better and easier way...

(could i make a huge pictures with photoshop, or.. i don't know

)

hasn't any terrain mapping tutorial somewhere? (step by step for silly users)

Pollo_Expresss · Post by **Pollo_Expresss** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:41 pm

Look at that tutorials

http://dynamic5.gamespy.com/%7Emanstein ... 9260f48d0a

http://users.1st.net/kimberly/Tutorial/photoshop.htm

http://users.1st.net/kimberly/Tutorial/terrain.htm

I?m a newbie but as far as I know you cant texture lod terrain with more than one texture and if you want to do soft transitions you must use easygen or something. Please if I?m untruth tell me because I?m interested in do transitions of textures in lod terrain too.

Pollo_Expresss

Franko74 · Post by **Franko74** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 4:44 pm

So, i have made a terrain with EasyGen.
Terrain 's very nice, and pretty, and... 16MB

So, i use the Mohradiant to Terrainmaking, and texturising, but it's very stupid (4exmple undo-redo function, etc.)
therefore the work is very slow with it..

Now i have a new problem:
The textures junction 's wrong on my map..
Does anybody know, why?[/img]

Balr14 · Post by **Balr14** » Sat Jan 10, 2004 8:56 pm

Use Gensurf. You can create any terrain in any size and shape you want with it, and control the granularity and face count yourself. it just takes some understanding of how to use it. Please contact me when you have it and I'll try and step you through. If it's done right, it's very easy to work with.

But, I'll caution you... there is no fast method for making a decent looking terrain that performs well.

Here's some samples of different maps using Gensurf terrain:

Pollo_Expresss · Post by **Pollo_Expresss** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 1:23 am

I?m not sure if its better to do little 512x512 lod terrains or if is the same to do a 2048x2048. Is it a problem to have very great lod terrains because its easier to work with one big terrain than with four little cause you have to control its junctions everytime and clicking ctrl+g for taking em liying into the grid. Can anybody help me?

tltrude · Post by **tltrude** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 1:59 am

LOD is a great way to make small hills and craters, but use it sparingly. For flat ares, just use normal brushes. And, for cliffs, roads, rubble, or moutains, use patch mesh.

The look of your LOD (level of detail) will change depending on the settings a player has. So, test you LOD at different settings. In the editor, LOD Terrain > scale 1 is the closest to "max detail" you can get.

Post by **Bjarne BZR** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 2:13 am

Hey Franko74, have you missed our tutorial on making LOD terrain by drawing it in a graphic program?
/t.php?id=86

It does not help your texturing prob, but it may help in the basic design.

Cant you use 2 identical LOD:s with diffrent textures where you remove the faces in in one and leave the corresponding faces in the other LOD?

tltrude · Post by **tltrude** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 2:18 am

That might work, but my bet would be no because it would probably cause black spots in the light compile. Much easier to just use patch mesh.

Balr14 · Post by **Balr14** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:43 am

Collision detection of patch mesh sucks, especially if you jump. You can go right through it. I guess I'm the only one still using triangle brushes.

Franko74 · Post by **Franko74** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 12:28 pm

Thanks guys,

I think have enough experience,
so i 'll make a new MOHAA mission pack with 18-20 map

p.s.:
1 part: Russian tank attack

Post by **Bjarne BZR** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:34 pm

Edited your posts to show the images

That terrain looks like it's blended really good... what technique did you use?

Franko74 · Post by **Franko74** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:37 pm

It's a simple trick: i use custom textures...
but think isn't good way, because the junctions are showing

(suxx radiant)

The technique:
- I created a big picture with photoshop (5120x5120 pixel),
- and put lot of textures to it (from MOHAA .pk3 texture files, and other)..
- i cut it to 512x512 size picture
- and added to lod terrain surface..

So, it isn't the perfect way, but usable to this, 4xmple:

.Map :: MoHAA Mapping

LOD Terrain mapping

LOD Terrain mapping

Check this

Its a problem to have great lod terrain parts

LOD

two lod patches