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Oh I thought you were in a car. :? Anyway I don't think aliens would be traveling in a flying saucer, that is way too sci-fi and brought on by TV just like the little green martains... That type of ship would be inefficent and high speed travel unless it hovered all the way... Where is the propultion system? A flying saucer would have no way of being stable at high speeds...

EDIT: That also reminds me, has anyone read The Sphere? Our ship from the future (oops spoiled the beginning... :oops: ) was not a saucer, but rather like an airplane from today... But over several kilometers long...

Also what about the Rama series? Very good series, the spaceship there was over 40 kilometers long and 8 wide... but spun to create artificial gravity...

The only thing I didn't like was that the middle two at parts got way off the whole space idea and bored the crap out of me, had to skip several parts... Also a couple parts were a bit graphic at describing the creation of humans (if you know what I mean :? ) The last books was awesome though!!
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Oh I thought you were in a car. Anyway I don't think aliens would be traveling in a flying saucer, that is way too sci-fi and brought on by TV just like the little green martains... That type of ship would be inefficent and high speed travel unless it hovered all the way... Where is the propultion system? A flying saucer would have no way of being stable at high speeds
well,it makes more sense if they are flying in a saucer than in a streamlined space ship
arguments against streamlined ship
1-y would there be a streamlined design if there is no "air" in space?
2-now where would the gravity system be?magnetic floor and iron shoes?
arguments for saucer
1-usually in all movies and "sightings" the saucer is rotating .thus making gravity in space .
2-how is it moving?well,probably by the same rotation thingy which causes gravity .(just a theory i made up now) the saucers rotation would be interfering with the earths gravity so it causs it to move in a certain direction
3-ever since the stone age there has been reports of "saucer sightings" ,b4 even the invention of tv .so i dont think all those guys just dreamt up the same dream :? .
4-an advanced race would probably find a better way of propulsion than my theory :lol: .

i do believe that there MUST be some alien race(s) out there .or the universe would be a complete waste of space :? .i mean think how tiny we are and how big the universe is with all those stars and galaxies .there ought to be a habitable planet that has "life" on it .
on some space program on tv they said that mars did have life once on its surface but it was unable to keep it due to its size which couldnt keep the "habitable" atmosphere from leaking to space .so if mars the red planet could've housed life at some point than i bet there must be other habitable planets
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Oh I thought you were in a car. Anyway I don't think aliens would be traveling in a flying saucer, that is way too sci-fi and brought on by TV just like the little green martains... That type of ship would be inefficent and high speed travel unless it hovered all the way... Where is the propultion system? A flying saucer would have no way of being stable at high speeds
well,it makes more sense if they are flying in a saucer than in a streamlined space ship
arguments against streamlined ship
1-y would there be a streamlined design if there is no "air" in space?
2-now where would the gravity system be?magnetic floor and iron shoes?
arguments for saucer
1-usually in all movies and "sightings" the saucer is rotating .thus making gravity in space .
2-how is it moving?well,probably by the same rotation thingy which causes gravity .(just a theory i made up now) the saucers rotation would be interfering with the earths gravity so it causs it to move in a certain direction
3-ever since the stone age there has been reports of "saucer sightings" ,b4 even the invention of tv .so i dont think all those guys just dreamt up the same dream :? .
4-an advanced race would probably find a better way of propulsion than my theory :lol: .

i do believe that there MUST be some alien race(s) out there .or the universe would be a complete waste of space :? .i mean think how tiny we are and how big the universe is with all those stars and galaxies .there ought to be a habitable planet that has "life" on it .
on some space program on tv they said that mars did have life once on its surface but it was unable to keep it due to its size which couldnt keep the "habitable" atmosphere from leaking to space .so if mars the red planet could've housed life at some point than i bet there must be other habitable planets
eh, well you've got some good points there!

1. Some parts of space do have gases floating around and also most places in space are not a true "vaccum", there are still molecules of things floating around. Even though this isn't much but at near the speed of light a molecule or two of hydrogen could blow your ship into a kazillion pieces.

Also what about when they're flying around on they're home planet?

2. good point

1. Good point, but the size of the ship would have to be enourmous to create gravity effectively. Or I guess you could spin super fast, but you'd lose your bearings.

2. true...
3. right, but they had no way of recording it then. Also they couldn't compare it to an airplane, since there was no such thing at the time.

4. That's true also...
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i do believe that there MUST be some alien race(s) out there .or the universe would be a complete waste of space :?
lmao. well i did laugh but not sure if every1 has the same sense of humour as me to get that, if it was even to be a joke

anyway on a more serious note, why does everyone think that they know so much about the universe, saying that things wouldn't be possible, everything is possible it's just advancing technology enough to make it happen, i bet if you said 50 years ago you'd be able to make replicas of pieces of paper (photocopying) you'd of been locked away in a padded cell,

or going back to adam and eve? adam and eve tha ameobas? or is that even fake that a male and female ape both evolved in the same way to make "humans" or did males and females both evolve from the same 1 ape and then split genders? come on people one of you must have the answers to everything else if you know about space travel???

i thought not!!!
hope this helps, prob not cos it's all foreign 2 me :-/
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hehe, id like to see a tone age report of a flying saucer. also why would the universe be a waste of space? take the big bang theory for instance. do u think that one piece of spontaneously generated unergy mass really though about the space it was gonna make? of course not. theree might be life somewhere else, but dont u think if they were that far advanced they would have met us already? i mean look at the saucer, there isnt even a propulsion system, and if they realy have been coming here since the stonage, why havent se seen one?
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and if they realy have been coming here since the stonage, why havent se seen one?
what i meant with this part is
there are alot of fake reports around .there are also some documented historical stuff by different nations which might be translated as "sightings".
so what i am saying is,its impossible that all those reports are fake!!!!
1. Good point, but the size of the ship would have to be enourmous to create gravity effectively. Or I guess you could spin super fast, but you'd lose your bearings.
well,on the saucers i have seen (yeah on tv)there is a middle part in the ship which isnt rotating .its like that part is the axis and the rest of the ship is rotating around it.probably that area is used for getting bearings ,but i have never seen a real saucer to tell u how :D
Some parts of space do have gases floating around and also most places in space are not a true "vaccum", there are still molecules of things floating around. Even though this isn't much but at near the speed of light a molecule or two of hydrogen could blow your ship into a kazillion pieces.
i didnt say that all space is vacuum,but its almost vacuum.those gases ur talking about are so few in comparison with a planet that has an atmosphere .
and whats that about 2 hydrogen molecules destroying a ship???surely u dont mean nuclear fusion as that happens only under very rare and special conditions .otherwise we would have had explosions everyday in the sea :? .
Also what about when they're flying around on they're home planet?

they must be using the same system that they use on our planet (y would it be different???)
why would the universe be a waste of space? take the big bang theory for instance. do u think that one piece of spontaneously generated unergy mass really though about the space it was gonna make? of course not[/quote
assuming that the big bang theory is correct ,and that u do believe in god .
then y would he create this infinitly big universe and only us (humans) amongst the whole universe :? :? :? :? .
theree might be life somewhere else, but dont u think if they were that far advanced they would have met us already
yeah,y didnt they meet us already ???
maybe cause they are afraid ???
try putting urself in thier shoes .
-they found some intelligent life which is capable of doing alot of damage and kill alot of ppl (wars and nukes and stuff....) .
-or maybe they dont know yet how to "talk" to us .maybe its als because they are so far away they lack a means of communication :?
who knows
anyway on a more serious note, why does everyone think that they know so much about the universe, saying that things wouldn't be possible
this is just a debate,we post on the info we think is true ,or even suggestions .just for the fun of it.no1 has said they know about space ,but we are just assuming .if u dont have anything to offer ,then y post in the 1st place?????
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or going back to adam and eve? adam and eve tha ameobas? or is that even fake that a male and female ape both evolved in the same way to make "humans" or did males and females both evolve from the same 1 ape and then split genders? come on people one of you must have the answers to everything else if you know about space travel???

i thought not!!!
Adam & Eve...LOL, You can NOT populate the earth with 2 people!
Can't happen!

It's more likely that we were put here by alien's.!!!!! :shock:
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no not by nuclear fission or something like that, but just from the shear force of the impact. Think about when astraunauts do space walks at Mach 22 (of course its really Mach 0 since there isn't anything for the sound to travel in) a grain of sand could do quite some damage...

THe speed of light where we are sitting would be over Mach 900,000 :wink:
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HogLeg wrote:
or going back to adam and eve? adam and eve tha ameobas? or is that even fake that a male and female ape both evolved in the same way to make "humans" or did males and females both evolve from the same 1 ape and then split genders? come on people one of you must have the answers to everything else if you know about space travel???

i thought not!!!
Adam & Eve...LOL, You can NOT populate the earth with 2 people!
Can't happen!

It's more likely that we were put here by alien's.!!!!! :shock:
yes it can. look at the different blood types. there is A abd B (O if your unusualy but that can some from any type) only 2 types could be a sing that there were only 2 ppl.
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No you can not create a suffecient gene pool from 2 people to start a population.

Sorry
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lol then explain 2 mice in a cage, their offspring will procreate...
hope this helps, prob not cos it's all foreign 2 me :-/
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sure u can, just have a lot of fun :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
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