no im not crazy and im not 'hot' or 'angry' or anything that requires cooling off.
There is a basic lack of respect, especialy in america, especialy among youth. A lack of respect for honor and decency, and for the property or lives of others.
You want to test you new uber cheat, do it on your own server. That or grow up.
PS- do you pay for a MOH server? Do you run one? You are aware that they take both a substantial amount of time and money right?
Its a shame that in a nice little mapping community liek this people gots to show up and advocate cheating =)
Claiming others maps as their own?
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[DC] FreeBird
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New News about HH
I posted to a thread on RSoBB about me being an ex-HH clan member;
http://snipurl.com/5rxw
and have had a few nice comments so far from some their clan members about this HH brouhaha.
I've seen quite a few threads about HH in different forums now and one had a link back to HH's forum. For whatever reason they had un-banned me and I posted a message last night. This afternoon I was banned again, but not before I had a copy of that thread, LOL. It's here on one of my web sites;
http://www.waftest.com/HHForum.htm
I'm hoping someone will look at their forum and send me a copy of any replies to that thread that I could add to my web page. If any of y'all would like to help with this, reply to me offline. I'd sure appreciate it.
If any of y'all would like to help HH hang themselves even more, all you'd have to do is go to their server, pretend you're a new player, talk nice to them, ask them what cheats are acceptable, and they'll tell you what they use and where to find them.
Give them the rope and they'll gladly hang themselves.
[DC] FreeBird
http://snipurl.com/5rxw
and have had a few nice comments so far from some their clan members about this HH brouhaha.
I've seen quite a few threads about HH in different forums now and one had a link back to HH's forum. For whatever reason they had un-banned me and I posted a message last night. This afternoon I was banned again, but not before I had a copy of that thread, LOL. It's here on one of my web sites;
http://www.waftest.com/HHForum.htm
I'm hoping someone will look at their forum and send me a copy of any replies to that thread that I could add to my web page. If any of y'all would like to help with this, reply to me offline. I'd sure appreciate it.
If any of y'all would like to help HH hang themselves even more, all you'd have to do is go to their server, pretend you're a new player, talk nice to them, ask them what cheats are acceptable, and they'll tell you what they use and where to find them.
Give them the rope and they'll gladly hang themselves.
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I would like to set a few things straight, first, Bjarne, I was the one that contacted you about the map, I am one of the guys that mod the code so it would run on our server, which is strickly setup for Liberation! I did mod the openning screen not to steal, imply, or to make it appear that we created the map, I included a readme file to explain what it was we did, and why we did it! 
Yes, most people don't read them, but before they start pissing about theft, they should! The openning screen shot is being replaced with the original with a notation on our download page, that it is a LIB, not a OBJ map that will run on our server. If we offended someone, or anyone, that was not our intention, nor did we or do we plan to profit by it. It is simply that the map you had, did not run on our server and we wanted to distinct it from the others. I was misstaken on the way I went about it I suppose? I just wanted to set the record straight about the map. I will have the changes in place with the explanation about the change by this weekend. I do apologize about any missunderstanding that anyone has had about my intent on this subject.
As for the other matter about Hacking, our clan has become a target by several other clans, after we had had 6 wins in a row in clan matches. The Clans that were beaten, all had the same choices of Pure, Un-Pure, Their Server, or Ours. In every case, they did not WANT PURE, and they CHOSE OURS for the speed. As a result, a bunch of MUD slinging went on! In the end, one of our members was caught and has been BANNED from our Clan. As for Freebird claim of CHEATS on our server, anyone caught cheating will be banned, whether member or not. Please visit our website at http://geocities.com/hhclan100/ to read the latest updates and visit our forum.
Yes, most people don't read them, but before they start pissing about theft, they should! The openning screen shot is being replaced with the original with a notation on our download page, that it is a LIB, not a OBJ map that will run on our server. If we offended someone, or anyone, that was not our intention, nor did we or do we plan to profit by it. It is simply that the map you had, did not run on our server and we wanted to distinct it from the others. I was misstaken on the way I went about it I suppose? I just wanted to set the record straight about the map. I will have the changes in place with the explanation about the change by this weekend. I do apologize about any missunderstanding that anyone has had about my intent on this subject.As for the other matter about Hacking, our clan has become a target by several other clans, after we had had 6 wins in a row in clan matches. The Clans that were beaten, all had the same choices of Pure, Un-Pure, Their Server, or Ours. In every case, they did not WANT PURE, and they CHOSE OURS for the speed. As a result, a bunch of MUD slinging went on! In the end, one of our members was caught and has been BANNED from our Clan. As for Freebird claim of CHEATS on our server, anyone caught cheating will be banned, whether member or not. Please visit our website at http://geocities.com/hhclan100/ to read the latest updates and visit our forum.
Sarge Out!
im not advocating it, im just saying u shudnt get ur pantys all bunched up because some people decide they wanna use so,ethin u dont want. ints not indecents, disrespectful and it sure isnt messing with anyone elses property. and btw yes i do happen to know what it takes to run a server, and its doesnt take that much cash. lmao @ the grow up part by the way, what does that have anyhting do do with age??Splaetos wrote:no im not crazy and im not 'hot' or 'angry' or anything that requires cooling off.
There is a basic lack of respect, especialy in america, especialy among youth. A lack of respect for honor and decency, and for the property or lives of others.
You want to test you new uber cheat, do it on your own server. That or grow up.
PS- do you pay for a MOH server? Do you run one? You are aware that they take both a substantial amount of time and money right?
Its a shame that in a nice little mapping community liek this people gots to show up and advocate cheating =)
There are only 10 kinds of people in this world; those who know what binary is, and those who don't.
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(Little Off-Topic, and just a foot note):
I think the best example to follow is allways Adam Bellefeuil... You can allways place a really big signature on your map, as long as it is out of sight during gameplay and accesible only on "Spectator" mode... Just like Bellefeuil did on Omaha with his "SENN" signature, bigger than a Cadillac and right in the middle of the two bunkers...
In addition to Brush-Built signatures, you can allways add some more "Personal Marks"... I allways include a portrait of myself somewhere and, if the case calls for it, even the logo of the Clan hosting that particular map...
And, of course that won't come in any help in a court of law... But it should be enough to prove your case inside the community...
(Hmm... Maybe if you, as a mapper, start to include, instead of Nickname Signatures, your actual Social Security Numbers or info of that kind, then maybe you can take the case to court after all...)
I think the best example to follow is allways Adam Bellefeuil... You can allways place a really big signature on your map, as long as it is out of sight during gameplay and accesible only on "Spectator" mode... Just like Bellefeuil did on Omaha with his "SENN" signature, bigger than a Cadillac and right in the middle of the two bunkers...
In addition to Brush-Built signatures, you can allways add some more "Personal Marks"... I allways include a portrait of myself somewhere and, if the case calls for it, even the logo of the Clan hosting that particular map...
And, of course that won't come in any help in a court of law... But it should be enough to prove your case inside the community...
(Hmm... Maybe if you, as a mapper, start to include, instead of Nickname Signatures, your actual Social Security Numbers or info of that kind, then maybe you can take the case to court after all...)
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I know this. And I never said you stole the map ( that I did not make b.t.w.[HH] Sergeant_Slaughter wrote:I did mod the openning screen not to steal, imply, or to make it appear that we created the map, I included a readme file to explain what it was we did, and why we did it!
). This argument started because I was contacted ( on a close to spam frequency ) by people claiming you stole it. The loadscreen was the reason for those claims.Thanx for changing the loadscreen. I'm glad you did the changes to the map because if it makes more people able to play one of the best maps produced, thats all good. So good work on that point.
Sorry I did not get back to you on the latest mail you sent me, my Internet provider was so evil as to block port 25 ( the standard email port
) recently. So I hope this is a good enough answer to your mail. If not: spam me again Admin .MAP Forums
Head above heels.
Head above heels.
oh yea thats not begging for identity theft. maybe your translator termed that wrong, or was it a joke?[ARGW] Tenebris wrote:(Little Off-Topic, and just a foot note):
I think the best example to follow is allways Adam Bellefeuil... You can allways place a really big signature on your map, as long as it is out of sight during gameplay and accesible only on "Spectator" mode... Just like Bellefeuil did on Omaha with his "SENN" signature, bigger than a Cadillac and right in the middle of the two bunkers...
In addition to Brush-Built signatures, you can allways add some more "Personal Marks"... I allways include a portrait of myself somewhere and, if the case calls for it, even the logo of the Clan hosting that particular map...
And, of course that won't come in any help in a court of law... But it should be enough to prove your case inside the community...
(Hmm... Maybe if you, as a mapper, start to include, instead of Nickname Signatures, your actual Social Security Numbers or info of that kind, then maybe you can take the case to court after all...)
There are only 10 kinds of people in this world; those who know what binary is, and those who don't.
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[HH] Sergeant_Slaughter said, "As for Freebird claim of CHEATS on our server, anyone caught cheating will be banned, whether member or not."
It's nice to hear that y'all are concerned about the reputation of your clan. Y'all might want to visit some of the other forums to let them know what your plans are for the future of your clan, I'm sure they'll be pleased to hear this. I wish y'all good luck Sergeant!
[DC] FreeBird
It's nice to hear that y'all are concerned about the reputation of your clan. Y'all might want to visit some of the other forums to let them know what your plans are for the future of your clan, I'm sure they'll be pleased to hear this. I wish y'all good luck Sergeant!
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[ARGW] Tenebris
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Course it's only a joke... (At least, if you were refering to that last paragraph...) If you really want to protect the ownership of a map or anything, you should go to a Patent Office and get your creation registered... And call your lawyer when a theft arises... Besides that, no matter how many signatures or marks you include, you'll allways be counting with only the good will or the hope of an omision by the other side...kai0ty wrote:oh yea thats not begging for identity theft. maybe your translator termed that wrong, or was it a joke?
(Is my english that bad...? Sorry if that's the case...)
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E-mail from Hitler
I received an e-mail from Hitler this morning and replied to him personally.
I posted part of the e-mail and my responses on our thread about HH.
http://www.dwarfshouse.net/weblog/archives/000026.html
He says he's serious about cleaning up his clan's reputation and I don't have any reason not to believe him. I don't believe Hitler ever lied to me when I was an HH member.
I hope he's able to accomplish his goals for the clan and wish him luck. It's not going to be an easy task and he deserves some understanding and patience from us if he's gonna be successful.
Good luck Hitler!
[DC] FreeBird
(I already posted this message on RSoBB and am gonna post it on IRL-FCA also so people will know that he's gonna try to clean up his clan's reputation.)
I posted part of the e-mail and my responses on our thread about HH.
http://www.dwarfshouse.net/weblog/archives/000026.html
He says he's serious about cleaning up his clan's reputation and I don't have any reason not to believe him. I don't believe Hitler ever lied to me when I was an HH member.
I hope he's able to accomplish his goals for the clan and wish him luck. It's not going to be an easy task and he deserves some understanding and patience from us if he's gonna be successful.
Good luck Hitler!
[DC] FreeBird
(I already posted this message on RSoBB and am gonna post it on IRL-FCA also so people will know that he's gonna try to clean up his clan's reputation.)
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Hitler Lied Again!
Well, according to Angie, now an ex-HH clan member, Hitler lied once again. He said he banned HustlaB, but Angie found out the hard way that this was not true. HustlaB himself banned Angie, LOL.
Anyway, it seems as though ALL HH members have left now and HH is coming apart. Their web site doesn't have anything left now except their babe page and a link to their forum, which is pretty much empty now.
Angie posted about all this on our forum;
http://www.dwarfshouse.net/weblog/archives/000026.html
What a shame Hitler! Several clans were willing to give you a hand, and a second chance, to clean up your clan's reputation and you decided to lie some more! Shame on you!!
[DC] FreeBird
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www.DwarfsHouse.com
Anyway, it seems as though ALL HH members have left now and HH is coming apart. Their web site doesn't have anything left now except their babe page and a link to their forum, which is pretty much empty now.
Angie posted about all this on our forum;
http://www.dwarfshouse.net/weblog/archives/000026.html
What a shame Hitler! Several clans were willing to give you a hand, and a second chance, to clean up your clan's reputation and you decided to lie some more! Shame on you!!
[DC] FreeBird
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www.DwarfsHouse.com