broken brush

At0miC · Post by **At0miC** » Sun May 09, 2004 5:13 pm

I got a broken brush in my map, I see it in the game but I cant see it in radiant, it looks like a thin cord, and it is black. ( The broken brush is at the place where I had used CSG subtract). But what now??? I cant delete it because I cant find the broken brush ( or what else it is ) in radiant.

screenshots:

http://www.mm2x.com/upload/files/MOHAA42.JPG

http://www.mm2x.com/upload/files/MOHAA31.JPG

http://www.mm2x.com/upload/files/MOHAA26.JPG

Thnx At0miC

kai0ty · Post by **kai0ty** » Sun May 09, 2004 7:28 pm

wow, never saw that b4. are u sure its a brush and not just a space in between the brushes?

blue60007 · Post by **blue60007** » Sun May 09, 2004 7:30 pm

Try using Rouge's plugins. It's probably a bad plane or brush.

tltrude · Post by **tltrude** » Sun May 09, 2004 8:55 pm

Draw a big brush around the whole area. Then go to Selection > Select Inside and it should get selected.

At0miC · Post by **At0miC** » Sun May 09, 2004 9:01 pm

I tried but it doesn't work, the (thin cord) was not selected.

MAP:
http://www.mm2x.com/upload/files/pj7_2.map

Screenshot (the place of the weird "cord"):
http://www.mm2x.com/upload/files/weird1.JPG

If you got the time, please look at it.

thnx At0miC

[-[usf]-] commando · Post by **[-[usf]-] commando** » Sun May 09, 2004 9:31 pm

tried doing a quick compile to find the entity number?
i am not sure just have a throw at it
cause a compile would ppick it up wouldnt it?

or its something to do with ur filters
make sure none r selected
i have had same prob b4 hand but cant remember how it was fixed
have u looked up in the forum on ne hints in iold post

tltrude · Post by **tltrude** » Sun May 09, 2004 9:41 pm

There are three evil polys, and the Roque Brush Repair plugin does get rid of them. Wait, I read it wrong, it is 0 evil polys.

M&M · Post by **M&M** » Sun May 09, 2004 9:50 pm

2 me ,this looks very similar to an infinite brush usually created by bad csg subtracting . i think rogue plugins could help
if they didnt work u could try these 2 things

Draw a big brush around the whole area. Then go to Selection > Select Inside and it should get selected.

that shouldnt work ,since the brush extends away from the map (and the box around it) .i think if u try complete tall ,it should select it !!! (try the other 2 as well)

if it doesnt work
select the whole map ,i.e draw a box around the whole map and select complete tall .this should select the map and the wierd brush ,follow the brush thru radient until u find a place where u can manage to delete it.

if all failes ,try to draw something around it ,since it looks like a wire ,maybe put some lights hanging from it or something as to hide it

tltrude · Post by **tltrude** » Sun May 09, 2004 9:56 pm

If all else fails, select the whole map and copy it to a new map. I did a quick compile of pj7_2 and did not see the thin brush in the game. But, the map has more compile errors than you can shake a stick at!

At0miC · Post by **At0miC** » Mon May 10, 2004 8:29 am

""select the whole map and copy it to a new map"""

I tried this, but after compiling I still see the "thin cord"

This is really weird, I think I must make some boxes around the "cord" so you cant see it anymore

but that's not what I want.

How must I hide this??
http://www.mm2x.com/upload/files/MOHAA42.JPG

Thnx At0miC

EDIT: HEY, wait a moment, so the "cord" must have been selected (you cant see it). This gives me an idea. Be right back..

EDIT2: Forget the idea, I have found the problem

... when I did this: selection > select inside, above the window, I found 10 splitted brushes in the wall ( CSG did this I guess) now I deleted all the splitted brushes and the problem was over

I'm so glad now, and everybody: THNX FOR HELPING ME!!

crunch · Post by **crunch** » Mon May 10, 2004 9:06 am

I think I found your problem Atomic.
That is absolutely terrible CSG Subtracting.

I am sure it is more than just the window I looked at, but you have 6 brushes per window that are paper thin, and causing the error. Plus there is a 7th and 8th brush buried in the window frame.
I moved the window frame to take this shot:

I would suggest remaking the arched part of your window frame from a square cylinder, or a few well-placed brushes. The dual CSG method you used almost never yields acceptable results.

This is the only window I checked, but if you made them all the same way, I am sure they all have these brushes.

At0miC · Post by **At0miC** » Mon May 10, 2004 9:18 am

Yeah, you found the same problem at the same time as I do

:

At0miC wrote: EDIT2: Forget the idea, I have found the problem ... when I did this: selection > select inside, above the window, I found 10 splitted brushes in the wall ( CSG did this I guess) now I deleted all the splitted brushes and the problem was over I'm so glad now, and everybody: THNX FOR HELPING ME!!

The splitted brushes where in 4 other windows, it was easy to fix.

Thnx again crunch

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