Leaf groups

[Ezykeyal]

Hello i'm new here and also new to the MoHRadiant editor.
I'm not new to radiant though.
Anyway my questions:

1-Is it possible to overlap VIS Leaf groups for example:

I made this castle and I want multiple groups to block off the various chambers but once I am in another area outside of the castle i want the entire castle to be gone since it can not be seen anyway.

If I would link the various room "leaves" to that specific area it still does not make everything disappear.

2-Anyone know how the -vertex lighting is handled and if it is bennificial ?

Thanks,

[Bjarne BZR]

I think you can, but if you start overlapping vis_leafgroups, you are probably overdoing it...

I think what you need is good use of detail/structural brushes.
Perhaps some areaportals in the doors as well.

Check these tuts out:
http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~rjukanproj ... WithDetail
http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~rjukanproj ... reaportals

Oh, and check this one as well:
http://dynamic6.gamespy.com/~rjukanproj ... oupHandsOn
...just to make sure you really understand vis_leafgroups ( many say they do, but many of them are mistaken ).

[Ezykeyal]

Thanks, i read those.

I have developed environments for a game called Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption and they use the same editor, Radiant.
It basicly all works the same accept the portalling system.

In Vampire you had to make portals in your entire level as a rendering method (What you portalled is what will be rendered).
This dramaticly increased compiling time as compiling was done portal after portal.
Also it worked a little differently in-game.
When the player was inside a specific portal it would only show the other portalled areas which the player could actually see at that specific moment.

Anyway I prefer that above leaf groups though this will do.
Also I experience a very slow compiling time after i built the surrounding mountains with patches.
It stays about 10 min on the mohlight start and starts compiling very very slow after that.
It says 7 min remaining but i've let it run for over an hour and it reached 88%.
This is even with the -fast option.
Kind of ridicilous if you ask me.

[Bjarne BZR]

He he, I've had 3-day compiles. But you can actually skip the light compile alltogether if you just need to see how it looks. You will get a "fullbright" lighting. Actually, you can skip the VIS compile as well. You will get sucky FPS. But if you skip both; you can compile "just to test" in 2 shakes of a lambs tail ( love that expression ).

The light compile is the absolute slowest part once you learn a little about how VIS works ( and you seem to have a rather good grip on it ).

[Ezykeyal]

Well I am going to finish the level today probably and then do a full compile tonight but I do not think it will be done in the morning.

Here's some older images:

[Bjarne BZR]

Dude, those definetly belong in the bragging forum