Mj wrote:
Lets declare war on them now... (sorry kate
)
Good idea seeing that in 10,000 years time "mankind" may be extinct given that women actually don't need men to breed any more - ooops.
Anyway back to the heated topic at hand....
At the time of the "Wars of Independence" the UK was far more concerned with kicking France's ass ! The French were far more dangerous to the stability of the Empire than the US was. In fact France and the UK were still fighting at the time of the US Civil War (We were never one to miss a good fight
, especially if France was involved) Plus the US wouldn't have got pissed off if they were allowed more autonomy, etc. If fact there were many "Loyal" americans fighting on the UK side as there were "Rebels" ... annnyway....
As any student of history will tell you, History moves in patterns and often tends to repeat itself over and over again. From time immamorial certain people / countries have tried to dominate large parts of the world: Romans, Greeks, Mongels, France, Britain, Germany ... all have tried and failed in their various methods ........
Whilst the US claims to be acting as the worlds policeman, is it any wonder that people have cause to doubt it. Most Americans will admit that the US is far from perfect. So why should people instantly welcome American intervention ??
Whilst I don't respect their current President, and I am against the way that you are trying to shape the world, I can in some ways accept that the world needs changing, and that the US as the worlds only Superpower must lead the way. Just not in their way.
When Britain carved their Empire, they did it for power, control and to "civilise" the world. (the Romans did the same thing, for the same reason 1000 years before) Unfortunately the British thought that their way of life was THE only way of life possible...... in much the same way that the US thinks that THEIR way of Democracy is the only way forward. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but a change to Democracy CANNOT be forced upon a country............it must come from Internal pressure... of course it can be helped along the way, but Democracy at gunpoint !!! thats not a real democracy at all.........
What happens if come the election, the Iraqi people decide that they don't want anyone with any connections to the US in power. What happens if, to go to extremes, by popular vote, someone who is deeply religious and ANti-american gets in??? What does the US do then ? If it does nothing, then its just replaced one dictator who was hated by the majority of people, with a leader who has a solid power base and has been elected by the process of Democracy. What happens if the Oil supply dries up? If it invades again, or replaces that leader, then the US is a massive hippocrite. So how can we trust the US to run an election in another country when it can barely run an election in its own back yard without it decending into farce ??
If the US wants to be held as the golden standard, I have no problem with that. I would welcome a "big brother" that countries can aspire to, look up to and that the UK could count on as a friend. But that country must also be able to recognise the flaws it has within itself...
Well that went on a bit longer than I thought it would.... sorry bout that ... anyway Marine, please try to keep your language clean mate ;
