.Map - the future ?

Post by **Surgeon** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:12 pm

Hi guys,

Just wanted a little feedback on the direction this site (and the CoD one) should take......

I feel that we are out growing the Gamespy network and we need to either (1) Find someone else to host - we have offers) or
(2) Get our own domain / hosting

There are of course up and downsides to both, the major one for option 2 is funding...but with our own domain etc we can start to offer our members more - such as their own webpages - ie each mapper gets a small amount of webspace to use as their own, to host maps, etc...

Anyway i'd like to hear people thoughts and suggestions on this

Surg

LiquorKraZy · Post by **LiquorKraZy** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:00 pm

i dont see a problem with both options...as for using the a different host, the only concern would be that like we had a couple months ago when the forums went down and Gamespy's lack of response wasnt very helpful...and i would be willing to contribute for our own domain...

lizardkid · Post by **lizardkid** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:41 am

i see definite reasons for looking for a new host, we're not obligated to discard Gamespy if we jsut search around.

1. Gamespy's cut-outs (as stated above)
2. a nicer link

3. webpages so all our members with pages that want to (like Wacko's Recycling Bin) can move in.
4. lower costs (?)

as to what kind of servers/domains we can have, lets see some figures. what are we (i use that loosley) paying now? who has offered servers/domains and how much are they? bandwidth? space?

if everyone likes the idea i'll help look around for servers

tltrude · Post by **tltrude** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:15 am

I don't see why you wana move it. This server is nice, when it is working, and there are no ads--on the forum pages anyway. Who's to say a paid server would be more reliable? They breakdown too, and can have similar problems with support.

ViPER · Post by **ViPER** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:39 am

It would be nice to have our own downlowd link. members submitted works to download archive! No more missing links and lost works.

bdbodger · Post by **bdbodger** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:02 am

Do you know how much bandwidth we are useing right now ? Maybe look into the costs and let use know for example the average cost per person if lets say 100 members contribute .

Post by **Bjarne BZR** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:03 am

www.dotmap.com is hogged by another one of those "buy up domains and sell/rent them for huge amounts of money" ( Damn I hate those, almost as much as spammers ).

And I quote the price range:

The quoted price will be at least $1,000 and may be over $10,000. Due to the high demand of premium domain names, the prices are rising weekly and subject to change.

As I see it, moving the site must provide equal or larger benafits than the problems/work needed to move it.

I dont think a pay model will work. But perhaps the ability do donate would be used.

@Surgeon:
Supplying a limited space to users would probably result in a considerable amount of disk space needed... is this something our "so far unmentioned possible future hosters" are willing to provide?

bdbodger · Post by **bdbodger** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:11 pm

Well those kind of A**holes should be shot but that price is what a 1 time cost ? If you want I will throw in the first $50 right now . What about a longer name like www.dotmap.gamers.com or some other name if it is not taken it would be cheaper right ? Anyway I like the idea of a upload area and maybe you can provide some web space at a small cost to those who need it or an uplaod fee maybe . What about makeing a CD of some of the best of .map maps I am sure some of the guys would give you permission to use thier maps for the cause .

Post by **Rookie One.pl** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:30 pm

www.dotmap.org is free.

Post by **Surgeon** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:46 pm

Yeah i've done some research into the domain name, and dotmap.org did catch my eye - for really professional webhosting we're talking about ?35 - ? 45 a year, and thats for a reliable host which gives us unlimited space and unlimited bandwidth ..... plus a free domain name and 10 sub domain names (ie www.cod.dotmap.org, www.moh.dotmap.org) I'm sure there's cheaper around but I was just curious as to a ball park figure - i mean thats 50 people donating ?1 ($2) a year ....

And yes there is no guaruntee that they would be more reliable than gamespy - but we wouldn't have to put up with Fileplanet anymore - which a lot of people have a problem with ...

Mj · Post by Mj » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:48 pm

What we have is good, but it could be better

I would be more than willing to donate (if I find out how I can, lol)

Post by **Surgeon** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:53 pm

And with unlimited space, we could allow people to upload their maps etc, and maybe ask for a small donation if they want their own "mini" site hosted - enough donations would mean we could get some decent prizes for mapping competitions, maybe even a server or 2

Deutsche Dogge · Post by **Deutsche Dogge** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:57 pm

It would be nice to have acces to everything within a .map network: maps download, an interactive section for tutorials (like the rjukan site), etc. And a small contribution, i'm sure many members would donate, i would.

My question is: is there a hosting company that will offer unlimited space/bandwidth?
I look around and many advertise for such but in fact, all plans have limits. If there is too much traffic, the client have to take new arrangements with them.

Godaddy has some good hosting though, and cheap domain registering too, maybe it's interesting for .map:
https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/hosting/ ... %2B&ci=132

edit: i forgot, about letting users upload stuff, since pure unlimited is more an advertising catch, maybe it could be restricted to contributing members, just a thought. I've seen this on another not game-related forum, contributing members can upload their sigs and pictures to put in posts.

Golden-Hammer · Post by **Golden-Hammer** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:58 pm

Try PC Frog

I know the owner in person, he may give you a good deal. He gave me nine dollars a year for webhosting and a free domain with every package.

www.pcfrog.com

P.S, why don't you start a poll for the members to help decide.

Green Beret · Post by **Green Beret** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:55 pm

the webhost im currently with has several packages,the one i have isnt the best one they have and its still great.tons of disk space,unlimited databases,unlimited emails,unlimited sub domains,forget how much the transfer rate was for traffic.has admin control panel.
the domain name was only $6.97 U.S a year.altho i forget were i got the domain name from,was a seperate place.heres the link for the packages.
plus many different packages,windows,linux,ect.....

http://www.web-hosting-ecommerce.net/bi ... info&id=10