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[Rookie One.pl]

Alright, I say nothing more.

[hogleg]

PKM.......your a topic killer!
Some people are really scared to display their true feeling publicly, huh.

I too believe that drugs have a detremental effect on peoples lives, I went through the "drug" stage of my life and its leveled off to where I don't drink at all, no drugs at all with the exception of getting high, and that is only in the evenings.

And Lizard if all that is true I would be a babbling idiot........wait.....I am a babbling idiot.....NO...NO.
After smoking pot for 15 years I went back to college and got my degree, so that kind of racks your theory. I also scored very high on 2 different IQ test. So smoking dope for 35 years has done what to me....I forgot what we were talking about.

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Sry PKM, just got your post

[PKM]

didn't intend to kill the topic, saw the PSA reference and remembered how retarded the eggs/brain ad was.

[Jack Ruby]

I think I prefer the drugged up mod, looks much more fun

[hogleg]

OK, my bad pkm.

i think i did a great job in relevancy. plus i neither glorified or damned the act of 'smoking the tree'.

defently the drug mod, funny how the straight mod is very 2 diminisional.

[Jack Ruby]

Seeing as hog laid it on the line I will,

I think I been smoking weed since I was 14, im 34, 20 yrs, I tried a few other things along the line, now I smoke still. I had all kinds of weird jobs, none ever seemed right and some were very good jobs.

I only touched a pc for the first time in 1999. Learned a whole new career while being stoned, now I sit on my ass stoned and the freakish ideas I sometimes come up with actually make it onto the web for some of the biggest clients I could ever dream of working for.
eg. timesplitters game site, receive an email from yourself from the the future?? the actual email displayed your own email address in the sender thing and the timestamp was from 2036,how fricking cool is that ????

Strange how things work out.

BUT, I am ALWAYS thinking I should stop smoking, not the weed only but cigarettes too, older I get more my health concerns me, so if I were to give anyone advice I would say DONT SMOKE ANYTHING. stay clean if you can

[PKM]

i stopped doing drugs when i saw star troopers and i was actually clean that day. i realized then there were certain evils of man that i do not want to experience clean or high. that some idiot who must have smoked a forrest of tree had written that screenplay and someone even higher had written that 'dialouge' and someone blazed out of his mind had done the casting.

however........after seeing my eagles losses to the stinkboys and to denver, i'm seriously concidering smoking the tree for the rest of the season. hog, i actually thought when i first saw this thread's title that this was going to be a 'call out' to all eagles fans after last week's game but as the week has gone by i've seen the eagles have once again gone to the bottom of the pile in the media's interest (and deservingly so).

however II, T.O. must have been high when he made this statement earlier: "The Eagles organization showed that they had no class when they didn't recognize my reaching 100 career TDs."

smoke'up T.O. you ****.

[Elgan]

not everyone is effected so drasticaly so soon but everyone is effected in one way, if its just health, condition of lungs etc.


some canabis users go insane hearing voices but put it off, Some report it and get help. some just dont notice anything.

some ppl have a reaction to some drugs and die the first time, others dont notice what changes occure. others dont care.

worth the risk? when it cud harm u bad or just harm u slightly and will prob harm those arround u also.

[tltrude]

Evil will flurish when good men say nothing.

[PKM]

Evil will flurish when good men say nothing.

as my good friend moc (SEE Rock & Rule) would say " remember, the evil spelled backwards is livvvvvvvvvve."

[hogleg]

Evil will flurish when good men say nothing.

Not sure if your refering to weed being evil or not but I've always heard that "evil weed", personaly it seems the opposit to me, you get more passive, quite, artistic, mellow,...now alcahol seems to bring out the evil spirit, aggresive, sloppy, mean.

If I was going to offer advice I'd say don't smoke or drink. It stinks, its expensive and will dystroy your liver and lungs!

I just don't believe in the punishment for Marajuana possesion.

And Lizard, yeah I hear of murders getting 20 years all the time here in Tx.
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[lizardkid]

Perhaps i should begin ammending my novel on the last page... It DOES depend on how much you smoke, like any other thing. However, the effects i mentioned are indeed from weed. Which is part of the reason i'm in favor or harsh penalties for those caught with ANY drug. People have never and will never know whats good for them. If enough people understand something to a high degree, maybe they can decide on their own. But a kid on the street who's caught off his guard by a friend offering him a joint wont be able to make that decision.

And Lizard if all that is true I would be a babbling idiot........wait.....I am a babbling idiot.....NO...NO.
After smoking pot for 15 years I went back to college and got my degree, so that kind of racks your theory. I also scored very high on 2 different IQ test. So smoking dope for 35 years has done what to me....I forgot what we were talking about.

i'm not saying you're a babbling idiot (or am i? ). Your brain has millions of cells in it. that's a relatively low brain cell decrease, and it's spread out fairly reasonably around logic and memory, starting with long term. but any time you degrade your mind is something wasted forever imo. 10 minutes of unnatural happiness versus a world-award idea is not a fair trade in my mind.

I've no doubt that most casual stoners are plenty fine people. I'm just saying a lapse of judgement like that will only hurt you. I'm perfectly happy getting my 10 minutes of dopamine from comedians, comics, and friends.

Thats my take and reasons. i'm sure you have your own.

[Splaetos]

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iprintlnbold "PSA: I am not advocating in any way anyone going out and gettign stoned as a result of reading this post, but I will always support your right(thouhg it be nonexistent in many places) to do so."
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iprintln "PS - my typos do not have anything to do with a history of drug use! err... I think..."
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Counter_Arguement_forthe_Counter_Culture(reason, freedom, evolution):

If your in favor of harsh penaltieso on weed, then come out for prohibition as well. Alcohol kills way more brain cells in this country (and prolly many others) then pot ever will. It is 'socially acceptable' to destroy your mind in that fashion, even tho the bubbly has a far more severe immediate effect, leading to countless deaths. Marijuana... not so much on the making you hurt people, or messing you up so much that your agressive and need to drive somewhere fast.

Drugs... pot being a big one, cause of how MUCH it is used, does make you stupid. Im not saying potheads are stupid cause of pot, im saying they are slightly less crisp. I have used plenty of pot... last time though was like 3 years ago... and never did it as much as some poeple. I also have tried many a drug, barring only the oens that scare me outright(serious opiate and amphetamines) My favorite drug of all time is Special K -Ketamine. Its a tranq used on small mammals, completely alters your reality, but not in the same way or duration as hallucinogens. Like i said though, I havent had anything but alcohol in 3 yearsish, and havent been drunk in that tiem either really.

I would never ever ever advise anyoen to take drugs. They diminish your clarity, diminish your overall mental faculties ~slightly~ in the logn run... You will never be quite the same after using a good amount of drugs. Do I view this as a bad thing neceessarily? no... Its a personal choice. This is a free country, which to me means im allowed to do anything i wish that has no impact on other people. Drugs DO have benefits. Why do you think docotors push them on everyone?(aside of course from the pharmacutical conglomerates getting f---ing rich off your irrelevant medications) Some drugs can and do unlock or emphasize parts of your brain that you wont otherwise feel. Anyone who says that no drug will enhance a persons creativity is completely full of crap. With damage as a side effect? quite possibly. Thus life has another tradeoff. The environment in which we live interacts with us. Natural and manmade phenomena interact with us on a daily basis, an our bodies and minds change in the process. Is this how its supposed to be? I dont know, let the religions decide, so I can ignore them and continue to ponder the question in my own manner.

Plenty of legal phamcuticals emulate some of the mental changes you experience with weed. They are ok cause the drug companies want to sell them to depressives, and just anyone stressed out.

Again, I wouldnt encourage anyone to do any drug, but I wouldnt lie to them about it either... you know the parental approach 'drugs do nothing but bad'... your kid is going to here so much to the contrary, and without a doubt, have some of his own doubts to the validity of that. Some drugs haev incredible immersive abilities(pot being one of these for many people) Although the typical image of a stoner is someone who cant concentrate or appreciate anything, this is only sometimes true. Pot has an effect on many people of lengthening time, creating a lasting reverberation of what is happening, even if the person is capable of it, a deeper appreciation of things if the person is capable of such. Music is the most common beneficiary here. I wont discuss other drugs that have an even greater effect of that nature here, but hell, marijuana, as comedians love to joke, keeps dark side of the mooon on the billboard charts indefinately.

When you are old enough to deicde your countries future, and defend it with your life, you are old enough to decide what you want to put into your body that effects your brain. Kids smoking pot is another issue, same as kids drinking. Crime related to drugs also has zero to do with it. Crime is crime, and the number of drunk people behaving in an illegal manner is probably close to identical to the number of people on most other drugs doing likewise. If you dont believe me, GO OUT TO A BAR! lol~

The war on drugs is a huge drain on most countries financial resources(I assume most countries have some version of this, I know the US and UK do) and that financial liability has accomplished next to nothing. Much of that resource is actualy centered on marijuana, which is an idea so ludicrous, it almost staggers my drug ridden faculties. Sure pots a gateway drug(as is alcohol) it makes you feel good, it can make you feel more creative, funnier etc. Anything thats a positive experience by nature is 'positive reinforcement'... however, harsh jailtime as the 'negative reinforcement' is seriously ridiculous.

I agree wholeheartedly with lizard that people should KNOW, not just be told, but know that drugs(again INCLUDING acohol) can have an immediate an longterm effect on your physical and mental health. I too have been known to score farily well on iq testies... I dotn know who posted the iq remark that liz quoted, btu personaly i tihnk youd have a 'chance' at getting a couple more points without ever having been subjected to the purple haze. Pot isnt going to enhance areas that an iq test measures, though it may not definitively lessen such areas either. It has the risk though.

I jsut think that whether you, as an ~adult~ want the experiences and risks associtated with a drug, it should be your call. Do any of us really believe that Uncle Sam knows whats best for us? Perhaps a long life of complete and utter flawless health is not the ideal way for every single person? Not that any government in the world really cares about that... if so theyd add a whole lot more to the banned substance list... instead of cozying up to the conglomerates who sell them to us(and not jsut talking typical 'drugs' here)

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[Rookie One.pl]

Whatever. My approach is that if you need to take drugs, drink alcohol or smoke tobacco to be creative and/or get your mood high and/or calm down, you are just a WEAK person. I for one don't need any of these things to do so. That's all I've got to say.

[hogleg]

Whatever. My approach is that if you need to take drugs, drink alcohol or smoke tobacco to be creative and/or get your mood high and/or calm down, you are just a WEAK person. I for one don't need any of these things to do so. That's all I've got to say.

Do you relize how many millions of people lives have been saved by drugs? Do you actually think their all weak for gods sake.

Do you think someone who's nerve are freakin out that takes something to calm them down are weak, wait till it happens to you and you'll change your mind.

Nice read splaetos