Well this is way off topic, but I'm hoping there are a few emerging writters amoung our group. Your ideas/help/opinions with my "screenplay" idea will be most welcome. Here is what I have so far.
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Working title: Space Man
Story idea:
Three young children find an unconscince russian fighter pilot in a remote "old Growth" forrest area of the canadian rockies (in a valley with steep sides and a small rock filled stream). He is in bad shape and to heavy to move far. But, they manage to drag him into a small cave and bind his wounds--compound fracture of one leg, one arm, and a possible concussion.
The children (ages 12, 9, and 7) come everyday to care for him until he wakes up--long after the search planes stop coming. The children are unusually adept in first aid. He speaks little or no english, and the children don't know any russian. His locator becon/radio was smashed on landing and his red parachute is in the cave being used as bedding and bandages.
As the story unfolds, it is clear the children have told no one about him. They call him "Space Man", because of his helmet, and bring him food and water once a day--food from the wild. Later, after winter comes, the pilot heals enough so they can take him to their cabin where it is discovered their servivelist parents died years ago. But, not before telling the children to stay hidden from all people.
In the end, the pilot has to learn enough english to convince the children their parents were wrong about the world. The oldest boy resists the thought of his parents being wrong, and tries to kill the pilot with poison. The other two children (boy 9, girl 7) stop him because they love having an adult around. When it gets warm again, they all head out for civilization--which turns out to be only a few miles away.
There can also be a mystery about why a russian pilot has crashed in Canada. The children could even help him sneak back to Russia or the US. They can meet a kind (lonely) woman (social worker?) and form a family, or the pilot can get his girlfriend (wife?) out of Russia. The children could have a dog that protects them from large preditors, and hunts small game.
Possible problems:
- The story reminds me of the movie "Nel".
- It will be hard to keep the story form looking like a Canadian travel adventure.
- The story also reminds me of the movie "Red Dawn"--US pilot part.
- Could turn into a "Children are better than adults" story.
- There is a danger of having to many plot twistes.
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Are you really idealistically against that notion? Usualy such a concept highlights open unformed minds versus rigid programed ones, which is kinda woven into the very frabric of the scenario. I'm not sure how any story unfolding remotely like this wouldnt have some sort of impact in that area... Themeatically with children living apart from society, taught 'bad' things about society, no matter what they do is goign ot somehow bring concepts of innoncence, corruption, or similar to the fore. It's just human nature when we think of children to consider not only thier age, but thier short history.- Could turn into a "Children are better than adults" story.
Which is not to say that you cannot write the story to adress these things as you want them addressed, just that even if they arent really concentrated on, something will be made of them by the audience.
You could possibly make the older one the one more in favor of beinging him back to the world, but torn between that, hsi parents legacy, and caring for his younger siblings... which would in turn make it partly a 'coming of age' story for that character... and possibly might contradict or downplay the 'youth' themes.
When I read the plot outline, my natural compulsion is to wonder...
'What if thier parents are right?' To me personally, that question has to be a major one in the story, whether its handled as an outright ludicrous notion, or a constant, bust subdued, source of dread until the climax. In either case, it can feed many a scenario for the climax, whatever that turns out to be.... (ie completely wrong, society is fine; or metaphorically speaking its not; or the parents were literaly right, and something is truely fucked, either before or after the crash, or possibly having to do with why he was flying over canada before he crashed) Where-ever the story goes... (and this is just my opinion of course) that question has to be on the mind... whether its 'answered' in assumption or not...
Sorry, not so many specific ideas here... more just questions about the story's nature....
I think it is a good start to a story, and could turn out well, no matter which of the countless directions it could take...
oh, but personally, the 'wife' notion... I'm really not sure how that would work out without turning into some uh... spy kids type of thing... Unless of course she is a Canadian or Upper-NE US, citizen hehe.... Three kids unfamiliar with society and a downed russian pilot trying to get a russian woman out of moscow.... seems a bit dubious to me =)
Anyway, like I said, alot of good possibilities! I look forward to seeing the trailer before the next harry potter movie so get cracking! Seriously though, best of luck, hope to read more in the future.
When I am king, you will be first against the wall~


It reminds me a little bit of Mad Max thunderdome, where Mel stumbles upon those kids living on their own.
Screenplay huh, cool, Im writing a science fiction book about a man that finds the end of space, along with other civilazations and finds out how primitive we really are and that we are living life for all the wrong reasons. kinda out there but so am I.
To write something original is next to impossible it seems, Our brains are so common its probably been done or thought of before unless your brain is in a place that most peoples aren't.
Then its so out there that its frowned upon or misunderstood...lol

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Kinda of bored today lol

Screenplay huh, cool, Im writing a science fiction book about a man that finds the end of space, along with other civilazations and finds out how primitive we really are and that we are living life for all the wrong reasons. kinda out there but so am I.
To write something original is next to impossible it seems, Our brains are so common its probably been done or thought of before unless your brain is in a place that most peoples aren't.
Then its so out there that its frowned upon or misunderstood...lol

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Kinda of bored today lol

"all the governments in the world are corrupt and in the hands of the Illuminati"
I liked the outline of the story, do the kids really think he is a spaceman, have they been detached from society that long?
The pilot speaking a foreign language could add even more to their belief he is from another planet, that is if they have never been taught about anything outside of their piece of wilderness.
That reminds of the Cargo Cult in WW2, think it was Indonesia or New Guinea, the tribes had never experienced the outside world and worshipped the planes that were flying over, google it, its a good story.
I would love to write a story, maybe one day, not sure if I have the imagination for a total piece of fiction, but I think I could base one on the people I have known and the things I have done.
My older brother started one, I have his handwritten manuscript here, should get someone to dictate it to me and I will type it in, he has led one of the maddest lives you could imagine, maybe I will tell you about it sometime
The pilot speaking a foreign language could add even more to their belief he is from another planet, that is if they have never been taught about anything outside of their piece of wilderness.
That reminds of the Cargo Cult in WW2, think it was Indonesia or New Guinea, the tribes had never experienced the outside world and worshipped the planes that were flying over, google it, its a good story.
I would love to write a story, maybe one day, not sure if I have the imagination for a total piece of fiction, but I think I could base one on the people I have known and the things I have done.
My older brother started one, I have his handwritten manuscript here, should get someone to dictate it to me and I will type it in, he has led one of the maddest lives you could imagine, maybe I will tell you about it sometime
Philip II of Macedon sent a message to Sparta:
"If I win this war, you will be slaves forever."
The Spartan ephors sent back a one word reply: "If".
"If I win this war, you will be slaves forever."
The Spartan ephors sent back a one word reply: "If".
I used to write quite actively and was actually going to put one of my manuscripts through publishing, but decided against it after (to my dismay) i started finding books that eventually pieced together everything i thought was cool in mine. Almost Every element had already been thought up by someone else.
Although i haven't really written anything but small short stories since, i'd like to write something i felt as good about as that book.
But i think i'm past that point by now, but it's certainly good to see other people sharing their ideas, i was pretty protective of mine.
However, on topic, i think it's an interesting idea. it's certainly nothing i',m capable of writing (i write high fantasy), but it's got a good element. I'd have to say i like it.
Although i haven't really written anything but small short stories since, i'd like to write something i felt as good about as that book.
But i think i'm past that point by now, but it's certainly good to see other people sharing their ideas, i was pretty protective of mine.
However, on topic, i think it's an interesting idea. it's certainly nothing i',m capable of writing (i write high fantasy), but it's got a good element. I'd have to say i like it.
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If you think you have a compeltely unique idea, you are either wrong, or will become so convinced you are wrong, you will not bother to share it =) There are unique ways of making points, but nuique ideas are few and far between in this world, but that doesnt really matter, its all about perception and expression, and where the idea leads. =)
I think I wrote a story about that once actualy... and of course lost it in the sands of data that is switching computers...
I think I wrote a story about that once actualy... and of course lost it in the sands of data that is switching computers...
When I am king, you will be first against the wall~


war
A famous writer once said that all modern stories are just updated versions of the anceint greek fables. So, using ideas from other stories is not necessarily a bad thing. God knows, most of the movies produced, these days, are remakes of classic movies/comics/books.
Splaetos - Your coments made me think this story could be about WW3 at the end. Yes, I know that was already done in one of the Mad Max films (I think it was "Beyond Thunder Dome"). But, it could make a good suprise ending.
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During the trip out of the valley, they come to a ridge top where the children hesitate to go on because of another of their parent's warnings. But, the pilot finally gets the children to take him to a big city (Vancover?), only to find that it is a (still smoking) wasteland--the end.
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For the title, my thought was that only the two youngest children call him Spaceman. They know he is not from outerspace, but the name fits because he is wearing his helmet when they first find him--unconscious and still attached to his chute.
By "Children are better than adults" story, I mean somthing like the movie "War Games" where only a smart kid can save the world from total destruction. That's not what I had in mind for this story.
Splaetos - Your coments made me think this story could be about WW3 at the end. Yes, I know that was already done in one of the Mad Max films (I think it was "Beyond Thunder Dome"). But, it could make a good suprise ending.
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During the trip out of the valley, they come to a ridge top where the children hesitate to go on because of another of their parent's warnings. But, the pilot finally gets the children to take him to a big city (Vancover?), only to find that it is a (still smoking) wasteland--the end.
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For the title, my thought was that only the two youngest children call him Spaceman. They know he is not from outerspace, but the name fits because he is wearing his helmet when they first find him--unconscious and still attached to his chute.
By "Children are better than adults" story, I mean somthing like the movie "War Games" where only a smart kid can save the world from total destruction. That's not what I had in mind for this story.
girlfriend
I was only thinking about adding a wife or girlfriend because every movie needs a love interest. But today I thought, why not just use a dream? The pilot can have a day or night dream of his wife or girlfriend.

