IRS\GOV scam?

[lizardkid]

I've been waiting for someone to bring this up...

Impossible.

1) thermite heats quickly and expands the air around it, in other words: big fireball. As you can see from all the videos, there's no big fireballs until the plane's gasoline ignires from friction sparks. Also, thermite melts metal for several feet, not severs it. It would first melt the beams and set fire to any nearby nonmetal objects (as in, plaster).

2) Thermite does not leave traces, it oxidizes faster than almost all other explosives, and only leaves basic metallic elements, most of which go into the air, not into metal. You cannot find "traces of thermite" in a support beam.

3) That pictures says more about the theorist than anything. "odviosly", it is not a 4-inch thick column, it is about a half an inch thick on either side, hollow in the middle (which a truck going about 35mph could break in half).

4) The theory doesn't make sense with the context. This government couldn't keep Riviera quiet, couldnt hold in the Foley scandal, couldnt cover anything up. it's PR is the worst and it's propaganda ranks with Gerald Ford's. There isn't any widely known organization that could pull it off, or would.

And of course... There are those that have opinions, and those that make them.

[Green Beret]

Unjust!!!!

I think the world would be better off without having to pay income tax.
Like they said, Money is printed like monopoly money, Without any backing.

So most of the things taxes are supposed to pay like schools and roads ect...Dont come out of income tax anyways!!

What gives the governmaent the right to say i owe them money for me working so hard and helping society grow as a whole.

We pay enough tax already.Theres a reason we have a constitution!
"We the people" are the only reason this country even exist's!!!
To say our CONSTITUTION is a piece of paper is like saying our fore fathers died in battle for nothing at all.

We need to pay income tax just like we need a hitler running america, WE DONT

[hogleg]

Your responce has many holes. I don't have time or care to pick each one apart. The one about the core I beams not being 4" thick at the base of the building were totally inacurate.

The difference was up to 15 ksi (i.e., 75 ksi, 85 ksi, and 90 ksi). The core columns were
box sections fabricated from A36 steel plate and were 36 inches x 14?16 inches with plate thickness from 3/4
inch to 4 inches. Above floor 84, rolled or welded built-up I-shaped sections were used.

but thats okay you can be one that believes a fire on top of the building caused that beam to melt like that
By the way there were huge explosions going off in the basement, many witness's to that. and thanks Lizard for that confirmation about a vehicle running into that I beam going 35 MPH would snap it it in half, I had use some tissues to wipe the tears from my face.
That beam is 4" thick, you can tell by the water bottle in the pic or hell just look up the blue prints.

[lizardkid]

i'm looking at the pic you posted, if you think that's a solid beam then... well i guess you can go back to the bong and keep working on those brain cells huh?

I can see, beret, you havent considered the ramifications of not having an income tax? tell me, what exactly do you think would happen in this liberal world of yours without an income tax?

[hogleg]

Lester, Yes duh the beam is hollow. The thickness of the steel in the main core supports at the base of the building is 4" thick. And yes the smoldering I beam in the pic is at the base and is 4" thick. Do some research.
The main support columns start off at the base of the building at 4" thick and progressivly gets thinner as it goes up, so that one pic of the beam may not be for the base but the one melted is. boy, you sure know how to focus on the wrong thing don't you?



And if you want to start the personal attacks again thats fine with me

You are missing the main point, do you think that the fire on the 78th floor cut that I beam in the basement at a 45 degree angle like that?

I guess you believe building 7 collapsed because of those 2 small fires as well. Wanna buy a bridge?

Hey Jack, you'll like this. It gets into the Skull & Crossbones organization
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1661&q=911
I love this stuff

[Devil_Dog]

Just out of curiosity, WHEN was this beam found? Cause I seem to remember alot of search and rescue personel running around with all sorts of tools and equipment. Maybe one of them cut the beam?
IF...and I repeat IF, the goverment did this, and was covering it up, why would they have let this beam be found? Seems to me if a common criminal knows to pick up his shell caseings after shooting some one, the CIA or whoever would know to remove this eveidence.
As to tower 7: I use to live 7 blocks from the Little Calumet River ( a canal actually). In the late 70's they widened it to accomidate larger bardges. The blasting they did cracked the foundation of our house almost 2 miles away. Seems to me that hunreds of tousands of tons hitting the ground less than 1/4 mile away would cause a bit of damage.

There was no goverment consiparcy here, there was no lone gunman hideing behind one of the planes. This was an attack by a terrorist orginazation. It is good that people look at all the possibilities, yes! But once you find the truth, you can't throw it out because you want a better story, or a differant villan.

[Green Beret]

I can see, beret, you havent considered the ramifications of not having an income tax? tell me, what exactly do you think would happen in this liberal world of yours without an income tax?

Would be just fine considering theres dozens of other taxes we pay
Taxing your income is just rediculous.We worked for it, Our government plays not part in me getting a job, So why can they take a cut?

Simple they cant, Thats why there isnt a law making the people have to file income taxes.