whats the longest post on this board, cuz i think this is getting the
well,i guess my post would be the longest !! the problem is there is too much of u guys and there is too few of me to reply .so when replying i have to reply to alot of ppl in one post !!!
Im not trying to start a conflict between us M&M, but you seem to only be seeing everything from one side (which is understandable).
well,i dont see anything that could start a conficlt so far .and im not the kind that gets into a confilct quickly
i do have an open mind about what is happening ,otherwise i wouldnt have been pro war !!
despite the terrible things going on ,the us is doing a great thing for iraq .it might accidental but still they should get the credit for it .however the price for that is just too much !!!
in that part of the region its customary to fire gunshots into the air at weddings.
If I was getting married and it is customary to fire shots in the air at a wedding, I think I would either tell the US government or not fire at all while there are HELICOPTER GUNSHIPS flying around, I mean comon you expect me to feel bad for that? Are you telling me if you were flying this heli, that you would say "oh they must be having a wedding" or would you shoot at them? I believe that there are bad things our soldiers are doing to Iraqi's dont get me wrong there. But I have an OPEN mind to reports on TV cause I know that EVERY side is lieing from time to time. NOT JUST THE AMERICANS.
well,i agree with all of ur post ,but come on.what are the odds of a heli flying at that certain location at night !!! besides ,would they have fired if they did hear the heli ? .lets look at it from another angle ,if they fired randomly at the air ,what are the odds that those bullets could hit the heli ?? also ,usually weddings are accompanied by alot of lights and music and stuff .if they were able to here the gunshots ,couldnt they here the music ?
hmmm, every side is lying......
well i dunno about that..... how can u say that anyone is lying when u dont have proof otherwise? also wehn ur in a helicopter dont u think u could tell when there is on woman in a white gown, and all the men in black tuxedos, and everyone dressed up nice, and pretty music, and flowers and stuff, that u would assume they arent firing at you? i mean if u see some guys take one shot in unison and put they're guns down, why would u BOMB THEM?!
EXACTLY !!!!
if like u were wanting to say ,those were a "terrorist group" .then why are most of the dead children and women !!?? if u have seen the report u would understand how it was impossible to be a "terrorist group"
also,the same thing happened in afganistan a couple of years ago .exactly the same thing
A white gown? is that customary there?
well,its customary here (in egypt) .but i dont know if it is the same there ,i only know about firing into the air becuase i saw that when i was in kuwait .but i do remember seeing other wedding gowns than white .its not a must afterall
well sure u can do that zippie, but what news are u lsitening too? what country do you live in? if u understand arabic, and watch both us and iraq news then more power to ya, but most of us watch american news
well,i never watch news from the SOURCE cause its bound to contain a big number of lies ,wether its iraqi or us .
also u say aobut the firepower of the militants. if they have all that fire power why would they take a helicopter down with assault rifles?
yeah,y didnt they do that if the intention was to hit the heli (if the bullits even hit the heli)
and no its not customary to fire rpgs in weddings !!!
the us does this in funerals and some other situations!!(firing shots)
its more likely they are ignorant, and not lying.
if they were ignorant they should say we dont know for sure .but to say NO when u dont know is considered lying (cool ,that rhymes
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news isnt bias, its selective which can cuse people to think a certain way
no its biased .i say this because i see true facts then watch the news .both iraqi and us news is biased ,it is selective yes .but its selecting the type of news that is best for thier side .before the fall of bagdad the iraqi side was really hilarious .they used to tell VERY OBVIOUS lies .but then again ,the us was lying also .maybe not as obvious ,but u cant say it didnt
They had solid intelligence that said there were insurgents in the complex.
I read they had word from about 3 different sources that something was going down.
Now I am pretty certain that the place must have been scoped out by people on the ground before being targetted by the helicopter.
ok ,so if u are right .maybe something was going on .or maybe some of the guests were insurgents .does this satisfy blowing every1 at that party to kill them?
Something like 28 of the dead were men of Fighting age. Now if it was a wedding this would be totally explainable, a young guy getting married, his friends brothers, cousins or you already know the alternative.
It was reported a bunch of cash, passports, satellite phones and other stuff was found after the strike.
well,usually weddings have ALOT of ppl invited .so 28 fighting age guys wouldnt be wierd .
also ,how was it reported that cash ,passports and sat phones where found thier? come on,us heli's shoot someplace and us soldiers go to the twon that has been fired at to check the damage? isnt this suicide?
The venue of the wedding ? In the middle of the desert, near the Syrian border, 80kms from the nearest other village. Seems like a strange place to go hold your wedding eh ? Give your mum and dad map references to find it would you ?
yeah,ur right .ur absolutly right .the wedding should have moved 80 kms to the nearest town or even more to bagdad or some safe place so they can hold a wedding !!!those invited should also have accompanied them into the march for the wedding .infact ,the whole town should have relocated for safety reasons !!!
i think my favortie war is WWII, call me crazy but it's a he!! of a lot more straightforeward, and a bit less searing heat.
nope,ur not crazy .ww2 was imo the greatest war that happened ,although it wasnt that straight forward .but look at how much technology we picked up (as human race) in those few years !!!! alot of ppl died ,but those living learned that cooperating is much better than fighting .
At least if we waited even if it costed lives in the process it would have been a much better reason and probably could have got a crapload more support.
well,imo i think if u waited more the guy would have died of natural reasons .he was already so old !!! he has president of iraq for so long ,3 egyptian presidents have came and he is still there .now ,changing presidents is not a very fast thing in egypt due to the corrupt "democratic" (if it even qualifies) regime that is in control
also,if the us did wait .the UN would have prolly agreed (1st).then u would have seen much more countries jumping to the aid .both the us goverment and uk goverment decieved the populaces as to how the war was neccessary ,doesnt that say something about them?
no WMD's were found ,no labs were found .no hard evidence was found !!!
so the excuse about saying that an iraqi attack (from iraqs side) was immenent was just a lame excuse .iraq didnt and couldnt have had the potential and power to strike at something so far .
even during the war ,iraq would laucnh "blind" missiles at kuwait and most of them ended up in the desert
