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Rather ironic, eh?

yeah...the sob wants to create islamic states and saddam was preventing him to do that with his "democracy"...now he have open field for his purposes. too sad.

yeah...the sob wants to create islamic states

this seems a bit offending to me as a muslim .
ur talking as if islamic states are some horrible form of government .while it was a very good system ages ago .its just bad people that abuse it .something like communism ,if u understand what communism was calling for ,u will see it was a very good thing .however bad leaders abused it and spoiled its reputation .

you AGREE with the war?

well,i do .i agree about both wars .they did do alot of good for iraq and afghanistan .thier future is much more bright now ,despite the resistance in both countries (almost neglectable in afganistan).
i dont dnow about u guys in america ,its probably annoying to lose all those guys but do know that some non-americans DO appreciate it

M&M wrote:this seems a bit offending to me as a muslim .
ur talking as if islamic states are some horrible form of government .while it was a very good system ages ago .its just bad people that abuse it .something like communism ,if u understand what communism was calling for ,u will see it was a very good thing .however bad leaders abused it and spoiled its reputation .

I didn't meant to offend you or the islamic faith, as one of my best friends is muslim...If I did it, my apologises !

When I say "islamic states", I meant exactly what you said! I'm not against that, it's just ppl that in power right now are turning this form of government in something "friendly" to terrorists. Their weapon is poverty...It was good years (and years) ago.

And I agree w/ you about communism. Same thing! What Lenin though was cool, but Stalin screwed up the thing.

My friend I told you b4, his family flew from Iran at the Komehinni (sp?) era...Ask him about what he thinks of Iran right now...

What the sob wants is THIS kind of islamic states...

Well, as proud american, I DO appreciate that comment from an Arab. Cuase with the tension between my country and all of your poeple for some stupid reason, I am very excited to here that any muslims (Arabs) like us at all. I think you hit it square on the head M & M, the problem is with sh**heads ruining the way a country is supposed to run. And unfortunately our governments are our "signature" so to speak. That said, everything these gov's do appears to be driven by its poeple, but is EXACTLY the opposite. My gov. does things all the time that I dont agree with, but you couldn't tell that I disagree unless I tell you myself.

you know M&M? that really is great to know that this isn't all killing for no reason.
well, my thought on it now is that we went in for the wrong reasons and helped out a bit. though i don't think Bush ought to take this to heart, next we'll be trying to get East United States, aka Middle East.

Yeah. But when people say that Americans are getting killed and say we shouldn't have gone to war and all that, I say it's just the way of war, death is just immenent (sp???) and its going to happen (unless you've lost a loved one , then its a different story). If you really think about we've lost as many people as were lost in say the first hour of the civil war (US). All them dingbats would stand in big lines and each line would fall down as they advanced. Give one guy on either the North or the South a M16 and imagine what the outcome of the war would be....

IMO, I think it's great to get sadaam's a** out of power, that's a benefit for a hell of alot of people. But I feel sorrow for the civil people in Iraq as much as for our soldiers. These people are caught up in it to there teeth and dont have anywhere to go to get away from it. Let's just hope that Iraq settles into a productive government that erases these extremists and allows there people to live in peace. Now on the subject of Israel, I believe there is a deep hatred towards them from all of the arab continent (tell me if I'm wrong M & M) and that is something that has to be solved (if possible) by Israel only. And I really resent being hated myself (or at least our country) for this reason. Tis life though and we all must deal with these things. I also wish poeple like us in this forum had alot more influince on our governments.

Let's just hope that Iraq settles into a productive government that erases these extremists and allows there people to live in peace.

well,america isnt very popular anywhere in the arab world .yeah its the strongest country ,very advanced ,would be a dream if u can travel there. but its hated for alot of stupid stuff that can be avoided quite easily .most of the resistance comes from ppl who hate america and americans who were easily recruited by "extremists" .suppose it was the opposite,the usa was liked by alot of arabs ,do u think any1 would listen to a wacko (sry Wacko ,but i cant think of a better word 2 use) and take up arms against a friend?
the usa usually intervenes in the wrong place at the wrong time then leave a mess behind (e.g:1st afganistan ,somalia,lebanon ,PALESTINE,lybia ) , things like these usually add up .
at the begining of the iraqi war they should have said they are going in 2 get rid of dictatorship and free an oppressed country (like kosova ) and they would have got more support and less hostility then they have now .but instead they dreamed up some WMD and alot of fake excuses for no aparent reason .iraq did have weapons b4 ,and it did allow inspections until they WERE used as espionage tools (do research 2 know im right) .so i dont blame them 4 stopping the inspections .
there is alot more that could keep me going on 4 hours but i guess thats enough 2 make u understand y we feel that way instead of thinking we are some devilish ppl hell bent on killing every american (some propaganda view us that way )

next we'll be trying to get East United States, aka Middle East.

it could also be called usa ,united states of arabs

I believe there is a deep hatred towards them from all of the arab continent (tell me if I'm wrong M & M) and that is something that has to be solved (if possible) by Israel only. And I really resent being hated myself (or at least our country) for this reason.

thats were it all started .as odd as it may seem ,hatred towards the usa is emanting from the israelis actions .
the usa keeps defending them and providnt stupid excuses for them and are bieng VERY VERY lean on them while being VERY harsh on the palestiniens .
usa keeps veto'ing resolutions against israel and israeli withdraws from occupied areas since 1967 (the old wars) & 2001 (2nd intefada) .
y would a syrina like america if the golan hights are still conquered by israel with no plans of retreat and no pressure from america (infact it seems more like a push ) .
look at it this way ,israel gets 9-11 billion from the usa .israel uses usa weapons ,uses usa technology ,defended by america on the international scales .all that is left is us soldiers and the usa would be fighting a war with the palestinians (whom are considered our brothers )
there are many exapmles that i could say here but my msn messenger download has finally finished on my 56kbs so i will stop now

i hope im not put on the CIA list 4 assasinations or somehting

edit:most of this is my opinion only ,it wouldnt be wierd though if alot of ppl share it .and i didnt mean 2 offend any1 here .i do like all americans ,just hate the goverment .

Killing anyone ( outside of virtual reality ) is just plain wrong!
No matter the circumstances. Even if some1 breaks into your home and you kill him, it's still WRONG.

IMHO...........The reality of killing someone is horrible.

War is wrong! Think about the maturity of it all, the only way we can figure out how to work things out is to kill the opponent! how f*#@kin
stupied.

No matter the circumstances. Even if some1 breaks into your home and you kill him, it's still WRONG.

Ahhhh Cant I just shoot him in the leg?

Pardon my language:
If a biatch is breaking into my home, I am going to bash his skull in, Its my right as an American Citizen.

heck yeah, as a purple belt in karate im going to hurt someone trying to hit me or whatever, im sorry but it's a fight or flight mechanism for me, you attack me you get hurt.

and M&M, i don't think any americans blame you for what you said, i think many countries people 'hate' are a reesult of wars, government, or stereotypical stuff (such as... 'all americans are really obese', it's just not true)

and you know M&M, im happy you could share your views here, and i really can't blame you for not liking our government. (im American, and i took no offense from what you said, because it's all true)

the USA has been really strange in it's foreign policy, and it's showed it's true colors many times before, America is pure capatilist. we stay clear of China, Japan, etc because they give use stuff. the back of my shirt says 'made in taiwan'. (hehee, just checked)

oops, im randomly talking now, better stop.