Truth about politics.

lizardkid · Post by **lizardkid** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:28 am

Green Beret wrote:u mean,they reason u voted bush was the war.

JV is Dutch

Green Beret · Post by **Green Beret** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:51 am

ahh,i see

ziptie2k2 · Post by **ziptie2k2** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 11:39 am

Well, I have mixed thoughts of the war in Iraq, which I wont get into (too long of post). But with Bush being re-elected, and getting more republican support in the house and senate, he will have his chance to do what he wants and fix what he can. Therefore, in four years we can better decide if Bush is good or bad. Lets just hope he does good!!!!!

Post by **Bjarne BZR** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:59 pm

cardevsan wrote:1.....everyone would be under nazi control........

And so Godwin's law is in effect after just 8 replies

Mj · Post by Mj » Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:34 pm

Nice law

hogleg · Post by **hogleg** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:54 pm

The WMD's was just a made up reason to go to war and in my opinion so was the WTC incident.
It's all about the oil and has been for a long time.

The WMD and WTC were political motivators for the flag waving American's.
People have trouble with accepting the idea of conspirecies even though there is a huge pile of evidence.

Here is about 50 links to some intelligent articles on the
oil motivation.

We can live with terrorist, we can live with crazy dictators brutalizing its people, but we can't live with out oil.

Cheetohs · Post by **Cheetohs** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:19 am

3) Flip-Flopping means that you change your mind as new information comes in. Which is Good.
4) Lying is bad. And Going back on a promise is bad. But changing your mind on an issue is good. (flip-floping).

I disagree. Think of a hamburger on the grill... take a spatula and you flip the burger to the complete opposite side when it starts cooking/burning. Not partially.. i dont know many chefs who can flip a burger onto it's side and make it stay. If you follow my crappy example. kerry flip flops completely... what you are saying is more of 'altering'.. or "Readjusting the burger on the grill" so it gets an even cook on the one side

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If i could have voted.. it would have been for bush. I dislike and disagree with kerry and his views... I cant say i disagree with his plan mess because of the fact WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT PLAN IS!

cardevsan · Post by **cardevsan** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:24 am

well if thats the case about oil iraq was not even in the top 13
lets invade ourself!!!!
got this info from google!

Top World Oil Producers, 2003*
(OPEC members in italics)
Country Total Oil Production**
(million barrels per day)
1) Saudi Arabia 9.95
2) United States 8.84
3) Russia 8.44
4) Iran 3.87
5) Mexico 3.79
6) China 3.54
7) Norway 3.27
8) Canada 3.11
9) United Arab Emirates 2.66
10) Venezuela 2.58
11) United Kingdom 2.39
12) Kuwait 2.32
13) Nigeria 2.25

Cheetohs · Post by **Cheetohs** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:42 am

I believe the WTC was just an excuse so we could get the chance to invade the middle east and stop terrorism and the supposed WoMD.. and behind the scenes, control the Oil in Iraq. (and perhaps for Bush to touch American's hearts by the idea of 'revenge' for the lost citizens... but alot of people disagreed with the invasion..oops?)

Top oil producers doesn't mean anything. Its the fact that, if i did my research correctly, iraq has like the 2nd larget oil reserves.. next to saudi arabia. If America invaded iraq and placed a favorable Government in place, than America would most likely benefit GREATLY from the oil in Iraq. Getting that much more oil from iraq helps America.

Besides the point, i still feal it was a wise decision to remove Saddam from leadership... Many people suffered under his rule.

cardevsan · Post by **cardevsan** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:40 am

the biggest oil reserve is i think still russia...

hogleg · Post by **hogleg** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:02 am

That stated oil producers, oil reserves is the middle east.