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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:18 am
by hogleg
Why 72 ? Cause some idiot 1000 years ago said so! :lol:

verse 72: "The Prophet Muhammad was heard saying: 'The smallest reward for the people of paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana'a [Yemen]'."

All worldly ideas of paradise. come on 80,000 servants or 72 wives who would really want that around. I got 1 and thats enough 4 me!

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:51 pm
by Mj
80,000 servants? Think of the upkeep, and the tax, and what the hell do you need 80,000 anyway? each of them looks afret a square inch of dome..? :P

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 4:01 am
by M&M
Cause some idiot 1000 years ago said so!
id appreciate it if u dont call our prophet names :evil: !!!! this thread was going fine until now !!! i dont think u would like me or an1 else calling CHRIST names .even i wont like it!!!
like i said ,some stuff gets made up while some stuff is real .its like u said ,1000 years .so thats a very long time !!!

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 9:34 am
by Kate
If it's paradise for everyone who will serve the servants and who will serve the servants servants.......? wont be much of a paradise for them :)

72 wives don't get me wrong but why would I need 72 wives i am no that way inclined :lol:

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 11:53 am
by Bjarne BZR
M&M wrote:
Cause some idiot 1000 years ago said so!
id appreciate it if u dont call our prophet names :evil: !!!! this thread was going fine until now !!! i dont think u would like me or an1 else calling CHRIST names .even i wont like it!!!
like i said ,some stuff gets made up while some stuff is real .its like u said ,1000 years .so thats a very long time !!!
I'd say its unfair to call him an idiot. None of us knew him. He must have had a h**l of a P.R. agent to still be listened to after all these years.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 11:40 pm
by Jack Ruby
Im still reading up on the Iraq nightmare, two Pakistani hostages were just killed I just read, probably met the same fate as Nick. :(

I just found this story on yahoo news:

"I wish someone would tell me who is responsible for these acts. Believe me, I would drink his blood," said Firas Salah Mahmood, a 24-year-old civil engineer.


Like Iraqis across the country, Mahmood watched in horror Wednesday televised scenes from Baqouba, where a suicide bombing killed 68 Iraqis.


After the attack, Iraqis swarmed the street, wild with anger and grief. They cursed the attackers and called them terrorists.


"These were all innocent Iraqis. There were no Americans. What was their guilt?" shouted an angry man, pounding his hands against his head.


Many of the attacks target coalition forces or Iraqi authorities, who have become more visible since the United States transferred sovereignty to an interim government last month.


But most of the victims are Iraqi civilians.


Iraqis are finding it hard to point the finger at themselves, fiercely clinging to the notion that foreigners, or the U.S. military, are behind devastating bombings that have killed hundreds in the last 15 months.


"What honorable Iraqi would kill another Iraqi?" asked Inaam Mahdi, who lives near a police station in Baghdad where a bomb killed nine people July 19.


Rumors accompany virtually every bombing. Some people insist they saw U.S. aircraft fire rockets that left huge craters and overwhelming destruction. Others assert U.S. soldiers place explosives in car trunks when they stop Iraqis at checkpoints, then detonate the bombs by remote control.


Even Iraqi officials are loath to acknowledge the vast majority of insurgents are their countrymen, as U.S. intelligence officials have recently confirmed.


"It is clear that terror groups targeting Iraq are imported from abroad," Berham Salah, the deputy prime minister for national security, said Wednesday.


Most Iraqis say that if U.S. troops leave, the attacks would end. They claim the United States is instigating attacks to justify its presence.


It's a point that religious factions are keen to capitalize on. They condemn kidnappings and explosions while calling for a U.S. withdrawal.


Mohammed Bashar al-Faidhi of the Association of Muslim Scholars, an Iraqi Sunni Muslim group with close ties to insurgents, walked this line when condemning hostage-taking recently.


"If a hostage is unrelated to occupation forces, their abductors should free them. If they are to respect Islamic religious principles," he said, tacitly endorsing the kidnapping of coalition forces and their allies.





The bombing in Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, was the deadliest attack since the handover of sovereignty. Mahmood said his first reaction upon seeing the attack ? which targeted applicants for the police force ? was to cry.

"I felt really angry after I saw all those innocents falling. Why us?" he said. "Those people went looking for jobs there because they had no choice."

A similar scene hit the Seidiyeh neighborhood in southwest Baghdad just over a week ago, when a fuel tanker truck plowed toward a police station and blew up.

Mahdi, who lives nearby, has had enough. She's had to replace the windows in her home three times because of bombs: U.S. forces blasted the Baath Party headquarters during the war and two car bombs since then shattered her windows, burst water pipes and turned her living room floor into a sea of uneven tiles.

"We don't care who is behind the attacks. We just want them to end," she said.

Iraqi authorities said residents have increasingly been calling them with tips about possible attacks. This week, residents of Baghdad's upscale Amariyah neighborhood sent police to check on a suspicious house. Authorities discovered four cars packed with explosives, said Sabah Kadhim of the Iraqi Interior Ministry.

Taxi driver Lu'ay Abdul Amir is as much afraid as angered by the attacks.

"A month ago someone hired me and said: 'I want you to take me on a tour in Baghdad and I will give you 25,000 dinars ($18)' and I agreed. I noticed that he was wearing a coat while it was very hot that day," Amir recalled.

After driving around for eight hours, Amir said he was tired and dropped his passenger off. The man got out and opened his coat to reveal an explosives belt, which he had not detonated because they never came across an American or Iraqi patrol, Amir said.

"You just missed a lunch with the Prophet Mohammed," the would-be attacker said, according to Amir.

"I really wanted to kill him," Amir said, growing agitated at the memory. "People like this guy should die."


Hard to imagine that your passenger tried to kill you, poor taxi driver, I pray it works out for the better.

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:18 am
by hogleg
Bjarne BZR wrote:
M&M wrote:
Cause some idiot 1000 years ago said so!
id appreciate it if u dont call our prophet names :evil: !!!! this thread was going fine until now !!! i dont think u would like me or an1 else calling CHRIST names .even i wont like it!!!
like i said ,some stuff gets made up while some stuff is real .its like u said ,1000 years .so thats a very long time !!!
I'd say its unfair to call him an idiot. None of us knew him. He must have had a h**l of a P.R. agent to still be listened to after all these years.
You can't offend me, no matter what you say. I think people are sheep and believe anything thier told. That's all people had for thousands of years was stories, made up, exageratted through the generations. I think if you believe any of those stories that ur...ummmm, gullable. Is that a better word.
And heaven will descend gleaming with rubies and diamonds.....what about the 100 dollar bills piled up everywhere? lol

And the terrorist believe in their hearts that their god approves of their actions. So, thats their belief.
Sry, didn't mean to offend any1.

Sry jack, had to respond to that prior post.

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 1:19 am
by lizardkid
the whole country is f***ed up. their whole governemnt and all that is based off of fear and all that. imo America shouldn't have tried to go in. that was reaaaaally stupid. i have my views on the whole Middle East period but i'll not say them since i know most if not all of you would hate me for them.

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 12:20 pm
by M&M
You can't offend me, no matter what you say
thats not the point ,im not trying to offend any1 here :wink:
imo America shouldn't have tried to go in
sadam was so old anyways ,he would have prolly died naturally at the end of this year or the next !!

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:47 pm
by lizardkid
lol true. he was liek 70 some and what with all the foundations on power and fixations on deciet inthat part of the politcal world. well, lets jsut say he'd not wake up.

ah, perfect phrasing Hogeleg. exactly to the letter. (same thing with the native Americans, they go through fasting, they smoke weed, they had super hallucinations. they based their 'religion' off of it, and boom. now we have soem spiritual ressurection of nature. :roll: )

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:47 pm
by lizardkid
lol true. he was liek 70 some and what with all the foundations on power and fixations on deciet inthat part of the politcal world. well, lets jsut say he'd not wake up.

ah, perfect phrasing Hogeleg. exactly to the letter.

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 4:53 pm
by Mj
oops doublepost there lizardude :P
He must have had a h**l of a P.R. agent to still be listened to after all these years.
:lol:

But i dont know if any of you here read much, but if you do, then i recommend a book called 'The Davinci Code' By Dan Brown. Not only an extremely excellent read, but will enlighten the reader as to the state of christianities many belief flaws (as in holes in the story) and proves a 'frailty' of all religions. What to believe?

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 8:12 pm
by hogleg
lizardkid wrote:lol true. he was liek 70 some and what with all the foundations on power and fixations on deciet inthat part of the politcal world. well, lets jsut say he'd not wake up.

ah, perfect phrasing Hogeleg. exactly to the letter. (same thing with the native Americans, they go through fasting, they smoke weed, they had super hallucinations. they based their 'religion' off of it, and boom. now we have soem spiritual ressurection of nature. :roll: )
How true...

I think if we would have done nothing Saddam's kids would have taken over and the situation would have gotten worse.

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:12 pm
by GrimReaper
Alright, guys no lie about Berg...don't always believe what you see. I serious have connections to "Some Guy" cant give names on the internet that I play with in MOH:AA and he is Special Forces(he was in Black Hawk Down--I have pics. of him in Black Hawk Down and everything) but I can't tell you anymore. DONT always believe what you see! Of course I probibly shouldn't put this because now you will all wounder but. I can't tell you:P

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 9:52 pm
by Jack Ruby
Grim, im not sure how much faith you should put in a guy that was an Operator in Iraq recently and claims to be playing mohaa.

Nick isnt the only victim, if his end wasnt all it seemed then some of the others I saw certainly were. Its barbarity. The beheading of people cannot be justified under any circumstances, even as you suggest a propaganda coup, ITS JUST WRONG !!!!

However, I read that Saddam had a stroke yesterday and may not be fit to face the court, maybe he woulda had the stroke anyway but I reckon the pressure he is under recently after being captured probably led to his veins popping.

If he had died naturally his sons woulda taken over.


The suicide bombings I just dont get at all !!!

Surely its better to plant a bomb or die trying than to certainly die by actually sitting on the bomb.

I think its bad tactics to die on your first mission, it must be better to keep planting bombs or sniping until you get killed doing so, rather than blowing yourself up on the first attempt.