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I'm looking for a new videocard because my old one 'GeForce fx 5200' can't handle my new games anymore. Like Battlefield 2, I just got a fps of 20 with low and medium options. Or BIA is slow and sticking, so it will be a bit unplayable.

I got,
AMD Athlon 2200+
1 gig ram memory

I know the cpu will be the bottleneck if I get a brand new videocard. But getting a new cpu and video card is getting too expensive. Those are one of the most expensive parts of a PC.

I would like to hear some recommends about videocards I could buy. Other suggestions are also welcome. I'm looking for a new videocard and the price doesn't matter.

You get to a point with computers where just upgradeing one part like the video card is just a waste of money . I mean the agp ports run faster on newer mother boards and a lot are useing pci-e and dual video cards . The site I looked at most of the athlon cpu's where 64 bit . I don't know what socket the 2200+ uses because they didn't even sell them any more but even so upgradeing the cpu would only be a small fix to keep your computer from being too out of date for a while longer . A video card like the geforce 6600 gt will be a good pick to keep you in the game a bit longer and the price isn't too bad but I think you should think about saveing your money for a new system . To switch to a pci-e based system means changeing the mobo and graphics card and then the cpu socket type may not be useable so you would have to replace that too then there is the memory does your system use ddr memory ? I don't even want to start the dual core cpu debate .The point is a total upgrade costs money so is it better to keep upgradeing your old system or to just get a new one .

well, I recommend AGP 8x over PCI Express anyday.

I use a ATI Radeon 9250 Dual Monitor Support, with TV output (I use those features to my advantage yay!)

It's a good graphics card... probably not what your look for though...

But if your looking for a decent graphics card brand I would go with ATI Radeon... maybe a 9800 would do you some good!

the 9800 series is sweet

Four geometry engines man... can't go wrong there!!! It has all the shader systems you will every freaking need... like 4 I believe... or is it three? I'm not sure... but its kickin

For teh 2d displays, it can go up to 2048 by 1536 (for people who are cool)
and for 3d resoloution it has a 2404 by 1536 again with 16.7m colors!!! Kickin ass basically!

It has dual intergrated display controllers (dual monitor) and it has intergrated tv output (1024x768)

The AGP is 8x...

With this bad boy... you won't be needing a graphics card for a long time!

It'll be expensive... but you'll want it!

I believe it'll be around $150 to $200 depending on where you get it.

I love my graphics cards... what an I say if I had the money I woudl go get it now!

i have a Radeon 9800 256 PRO... AGP of course. PCI is and always will be inferior. Just how it works. It works beatifully, i have yet to find a game it cant handle, it's chewed through BF2 on cranked settings, HL2 and CSS on cranked settings, FEAR on high-end settings, AoE3, WoW... every major game i've put through it comes out looking like a dream l)

PCI Express is better than AGP.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardw ... presstech/

this is basically reinforcing what i said, PCI is old, AGP is newer.

it says very little about PCi-E except it'll be based on the same tech AGP is.

maybe it runs 12 hz faster, who knows.

yay! Lizard backed up my theory on the 9800 by ATI Radeon!

I'm glad... I've wanted it so long but don't have the money!!! Good Job!

I have to beg to differ on that Axion.

You could go to the Geek Squad at BestBuy and they might tell you AGP.

Then you could go to another computer Tech Store and have them tell you PCI Express.

AGP is newer and is becoming more advanced than PCI Express (in my oppinon)

Like I said... its a users oppinion... you could read a sites oppinion... but then theres other sites that will fight the arguement towards the other way.

hey Atomic,

i too had the geforce fx 5200 piece of poo and upgraded to the geforce 6600 256 mb ddr and it runs great for all games...BF2, HL2, etc... they were out of the 6800 at the time...but this card works great

Kiko wrote:
AGP is newer and is becoming more advanced than PCI Express (in my oppinon)

Newer? Well, you've just excused yourself from being credible.

All new graphics cores from both nVidia and ATI support PCI Express x16 by default, though some have been ported to AGP 8x. The PCI Express X16 slot provides a total usable bandwidth of around 4GB/s in each direction, double the 2.1GB/s bandwidth that the 8x AGP spec boasts.

Based off of that information alone, it's easy to see that PCI Express will eventually replace AGP technology. Those specs aren't opinion, they're fact. It's a fact that PCI Express was designed to be faster than the AGP standard, and it is.

However, does that mean AGP is no longer aviable option? No. AGP is fine for today's and tomorrow's games. It will probably be at least a year or more before games that require PCI Express will be released. Once that happens (And trust me, it will happen), AGP will quickly become obsolete.

Based off of that information alone, it's easy to see that PCI Express will eventually replace AGP technology.

and you've just excused yourself from being credible. the same would have been said of AGP 5 years ago, and yet now here you stand, defending PCI-E. AGP will make another leap ahead, PCI will fall behind for 5 years, PCI will leap ahead, etc.

that's how computers go. no technology will ever reign supreme forever.

Lizard, come back when you get a clue, okay?

ok, no. my last post was pure truth, try to contest it and you're proving to everyone that you need to go back and use pencil and paper, because you dont understand computers.

one technology will be the best for a while, then another will leapfrog ahead, the old one will make a new product (PCI was the monopoly, then AGP came out, then PCI-E) and it'll go from there.

thats a rephrasation of my last post, with examples.

trying to say that new tech will "replace <thing> someday" is like saying that one car will replace them all, because, omghax, it's the best.

doesnt work that way.

and I have to agree with Lizard...


Back to my crediblity...

AGP is newer now... You obviously don't know as many computer techs as I do. The works for the new ATI Radeon series is going to blow PCI Express (to this date) out of the water.

Lizard I'm looking forward to seeing you post your steam mobile in the your wheels thread ... ofcourse new technology can make older technology completely obsolete, just by being uh better.

And well I won't claim to be a computer expert, but I tend to believe the PCI-e standard is an improvement over AGP (why else would the industry introduce new standards?? It's gotta be costly to adapt manufacturing processes to the new interface and they certainly wouldn't make the investments if PCI-e was inferior ).

Anyhow somewhat back to the original topic... I have a 6600GT PCI-e (128MB)... BF2 demo runs great on that, but you're gonna need a sledgehammer to get it in an AGP slot

P.S. Kiko I admire your twisted sense of time

What do you mean...

I admire your twisted sense of time...