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Journey to the Center of the Earth

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:21 am
by Balr14
I'm not intending to brag, but since I posted these images on TMT, I thought it only fair that I post them here as well.

This is my underground lake map from my Journey to the Center of the Earth "adventure" mod (well, sort of mod). The concept is a series of maps you have to get through and be the first team to discover the secret at the Center of the Earth. Each map has puzzles, traps, tricks and secrets your team will have to get through to reach the exit. Some maps are divided in tow, so one team never sees the other, and some maps both teams are together; like this map.

On this map, you must pilot a raft from one end of the map to the other, and be the first team to reach the secret exit. Of course, the other team may be shooting at you and if you die, you go back to the start of the map. Now, using standard weapons, nobody would get very far, so I've borrowed the weapons from the defunct Civil War mod.

The water and lighting you see is not final, just temporary stuff while I sort out some shaders. The map is much bigger than it appears. It covers the entire Radiant grid and the river is U shaped, so it's nearly twice as long as the grid.

http://home.wi.rr.com/balr14/JTCOE01.JPG

http://home.wi.rr.com/balr14/JTCOE02.JPG

http://home.wi.rr.com/balr14/JTCOE03.JPG

http://home.wi.rr.com/balr14/JTCOE04.JPG

http://home.wi.rr.com/balr14/JTCOE05.JPG

http://home.wi.rr.com/balr14/JTCOE06.JPG


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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:34 am
by Tod001
:shock: :shock:
WOW!!
Awesome!!
Most Excellent!!!!!!
Capital idea!!!!

Nice

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:51 am
by tltrude
Looks kind of like my old cave -- it was never released.

Image

Also, You might find this tutorial map useful. It has a drip emitter.

bubble_drip.zip
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I never did get the drips to make a ring when they hit the water. But, this prefab map has a ring emitter and brown flowing water.

pontoon_bridge.zip
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Anyway, I hope you find something useful in all that.

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:07 am
by Balr14
You should have released it, Tom. That was a very nice cave. I have your tutorial maps from Small Sumo's links. But, that one will come in handy, thanks. You aren't looking to do some scripting, are you???

Nope

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:28 am
by tltrude
No, my Mohaa days are pretty much over. The old Mohaa graphics look kind of weak after seeing what Cod2 can do!

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Don't worry, I know you hate IW and I can't release it. But it was fun retexturing it!

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:17 am
by Balr14
Damn, that does look nice. Trying to tempt me, you dog. Are those bump mapped? But, you are more than welcome to release it. I include the map files so people can get some use out of them. Otherwise, it's just a lot of work (for both of us) collecting dust. It's not like I'll be cheated out of fame and fortune. I've been offered level designer jobs by several companies. But, at my age, I have no desire to move and change careers. Besides, then I'd have to work on creating levels for what they want me to do, not what I feel like doing. :D

I'm hoping I can get somebody to help me figure out how to steer my rafts.

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:22 am
by Rookie One.pl
Wow! :shock: Awesome concept!
Scripting the raft can be pretty hard depending on how you want it to be steered.

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:35 am
by lizardkid
ahh Quake 4 blows CoD2's badly redesigned engine out of the water, IW sure knows how to destroy their games based on good engines. Q4's animations are clean, the movement is smooth, the texturing and skinning are beyond compare, and i run at Ultra settings with >60fps (i havent uncapped it yet, nvidia 6600 256mb with a 1.8ghz cpu, 512kb cache) and it uses a radiant!

a better game, does not exist. of this i am convinced.

i hijack, however. excellent idea balr! although it would seem too frusterating to the players, that huge of an area with that many potshots at each other would be maddening.

Light

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:10 am
by tltrude
Yes, a lot of the textures are bump mapped. Here is an example of a rock wall texture where the shadows for
each rock change as a dynamic light moves in fornt of it.

click here for image

I, and the beleaguerd Cod2 multiplayers, thank you for allowing the release of Cod2 Temple_of_Kali.

I added flickering dynamic light for every burning torch, a lake with birch trees, and a lilly pond. But, the rest
is all your design, and the loading screen will have your name on it -- unless you don't want the fame.

Moving rafts? Now who is doing the tempting around here, ha ha!

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:52 pm
by PKM
looks very good bar; i'll dig up my old Lp record of journey to the center of the earth (from the 70s) to use as background noise while your mapping this .

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:37 pm
by Balr14
lizardkid wrote:ahh Quake 4 blows CoD2's badly redesigned engine out of the water, IW sure knows how to destroy their games based on good engines. Q4's animations are clean, the movement is smooth, the texturing and skinning are beyond compare, and i run at Ultra settings with >60fps (i havent uncapped it yet, nvidia 6600 256mb with a 1.8ghz cpu, 512kb cache) and it uses a radiant!

a better game, does not exist. of this i am convinced.

i hijack, however. excellent idea balr! although it would seem too frusterating to the players, that huge of an area with that many potshots at each other would be maddening.
I've been a member of Raven's developers forum for many years... since they released Heretic 2. They have always been the best, as far as I was concerned. We discussed Q4 features years ago and I was impressed. The problem with it is a small player base and Raven never releases their modeling formats used for players. Part of it's due to the GHOUL hit zone layer that makes things very complex for modelers.

I think using the CW weapons removes the frustration factor. You get one shot. If you miss, the player you were shooting at can be pretty far up the river before you finish the reload, as they are muzzle loaders. Plus, he can shoot back from the raft. I think there should be a fair amount of strategy involved in deciding whether your team focuses on getting up the river, or stopping the other team. You could even decide to co-operate with the other team until you get to the other end. The rafts are big enough for at least 4 players, so there's room to provide covering fire for the raft pilot.

You probably don't remember my "Capture the Trolley" map, but I expect it to play in a similar manner. That map features a 1920s trolley in an old Italian mountain village. The trolley is in the middle of the map and the allies have to drive it to the station on the south end of the map and hold it there, while the axis has to drive it to the north station and hold it there. The map has a wonderful script created by TomTrude to control the trolley. A player can even stop the trolley moving by jumping in front of it and getting hit by it. It's not one of my best maps, but it's great fun to play. We still play it for hours with 4 - 8 players.

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:00 pm
by Tod001
"Capture the Trolley"
I play either singleplayer or with my family on my LAN. This Trolley map sounds like alot of fun for us if it was a botmap.
Where can I dload this Trolley-map from?

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:07 pm
by Balr14
Tod001 wrote:
"Capture the Trolley"
I play either singleplayer or with my family on my LAN. This Trolley map sounds like alot of fun for us if it was a botmap.
Where can I dload this Trolley-map from?
http://www.badongo.com/file/972572

If you want the source map, so somebody can add bots, just let me know. I would have packaged it in the PK3 file, but I forgot.

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:25 pm
by Tod001
Thanks!!!!!
If you want the source map, so somebody can add bots
You dang right!! :wink:

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:59 am
by Balr14
Here's some images of the rafts. I wanted to bind it to the player so when the player moves side to side, the oar does too. Then use the up and down keys to put it in/out of the water.

http://home.wi.rr.com/balr14/jtcoe07.jpg
http://home.wi.rr.com/balr14/jtcoe08.jpg
http://home.wi.rr.com/balr14/jtcoe09.jpg