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GEN COBRA (keep your chin up)

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:45 am
by nuggets
after reading the last thread, i am disappointed that so many people in here will always take the worst possible outcome from a situation,

i don't want to start a fight, keep a fight going, or even ty to calm it... but...

you need only ask yourself one question
why do you post your work at .map and other sites?

if, as i suspect it is, to release great maps for every1 to see, play and enjoy, then surely the unconstructive criticism made from other mappers/gamers can be ignored,

but if it's to release a map, and hear nothing but great reviews, and have nothing to improve on, and what you say must be right, then your in the wrong place, self gratification isn't given by others, only one's-self

i admire your work as do hundreds maybe even thousands of MOH players do, but always know that if you want to improve anything, you need to know what needs improving :)

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 6:08 am
by mohaa_rox
i agree very much with u nuggets.

Cobra, i've always played your maps (well most that i can think of :wink:) and i think u spent quite a fair bit of ur time. the amount of time needed to map a good map makes a lot of sacrifices (e.g. dinner time, dates w/ gf, sleepy time etc).

So in order to improve ur maps to make 'em even better, it's wise to post ur maps around and ask for comments cause they will dearly make u improve. but remember not to be so harsh on ur comments like "omg this sux like hell! my 3 yr old brother could do better!". These harsh comments will only piss the developer off so it aint wise.

but as modders, we must learn to take criticism, and eat humble pie (yum), and accept others' words.

On the chin!

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 6:43 am
by tltrude
I think the General's nose his a bit higher than his chin these days. All I said was I had lag playing his mod, and was told it was my fault for not being able to afford a new computer!

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:42 pm
by nuggets
lol, but it is your fault, put the past behind us, look to tomorrow, don't hold a grudge and if an apology comes just accept it :D

i can't wait til i get broadband (when i can also afford it) come online in anybodies map and kick all your a$$e$ :twisted:

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:27 pm
by mohaa_rox
nuggets wrote:lol, but it is your fault, put the past behind us, look to tomorrow, don't hold a grudge and if an apology comes just accept it :D

i can't wait til i get broadband (when i can also afford it) come online in anybodies map and kick all your a$$e$ :twisted:
just remember to clean your rifle, grab your gasmask, and head to the frontline trenches. -trenchrats

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:55 am
by small_sumo
I believe the General has good and bad like all, what I like is his huge output and work ethic, what I don't like is that it seams he doesn't finish his levels.
And I believe he should, for the community the gamers and himself. I think we aren't seeing what he is capable of.
When I released my first level (and even some others) I didn't take the criticism to well ........... I reacted poorly some of my posts admin deleted cos I was too ................. nasty in what I wrote.

Hang in there General, and if you don't like what you hear ask for them to help you, put they money where they mouth is, and even ask the other readers if they agree with a post you don't, like just to see if its just someone who is jealous.

Also if you wait, often someone will come to your defence and that is the best argument.

Bye

:idea:

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:09 am
by silversound
While fresh to mapping, I have been "creating" for my whole life. I do music and find the mapping experiance to be very similar. We are taking people on a trip into our own fanasy. I love the idea that someone is enjoying my work. It makes me feel great to think that I could share my creations. Actually the praise given by my "fans" (as few as there may be) over shadows all of the lack of attention from my parents.

This is where I get to my point. We all crave approval. Some of us more than others. And when we pour our time and hearts into something, we ultimately want it to be loved. Some (actually most) people will never admit to these needs. It touches us way too deep to even get into it here. In the music arena people always say "I do this for me, and I don't care what others think, I don't care if I make it". While truley they find recognition above all else.

So what it really boils down to the age old saying:

"Your message is only as good as it is recieved"

This goes for the creator and the critic.

Cobra you rock. As I have stated befor you peaked my interest in mapping. However you are slipping. Speed is a VERY good talent, being prolific is as well. Just don't over do it. And listen to the compliments. They are justified. But take the time to apreciate the critics. They usually are the ones who wish they could.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 4:40 am
by falcon64z8
its funny how cobra hasn't even comment on this post yet :lol:

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 7:00 am
by jv_map
Maybe he didn't notice this thread...

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:11 pm
by Gen Cobra
Well I must say no I didn't notice this. I for one am humbled by what people say these days. One thing must be made clear right here right now. I am the evil villian of medal of honor. Always have been... always will be. Don't think for one minute that a game like this can have good with out bad. Me leaving the mapping scene is because I am going back to work after one very long rest and recoop from serious and tramatizing injury.

I teach 9th grade art to kids at the age of 26 here in Maine. They are all very happy to see me back in the class room where I belong. I have ZERO problems with peoples thoughts now. Any problems I may have voiced were 150% linked to the my own personal problems coping with death. I'm sorry for bringing the worst in me to places where it didn't belong.

I really want to stress, as one of the last things I say here, that people need to lighten up and relax. I was once guilty of the same thing I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Some of my work may seem incomplete but then again I did work on 30 maps in a year so you do the math. Most of it was for fun so in all seriousness it's not ment to be seen as an achievment but more as a learning experience.

I want to thank those here that were always behind me, that always stood their ground and knew I was trying my best and never put me down once. I want to thank friends and foes alike for giving me what I needed to create my work. It's a great game... keep on fighting. I know I will.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:14 am
by nuggets
:) GOOD LUCK GENERAL

make your last map one to remember you by!

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:32 pm
by HDL_CinC_Dragon
Gen Cobra wrote:Well I must say no I didn't notice this. I for one am humbled by what people say these days. One thing must be made clear right here right now. I am the evil villian of medal of honor. Always have been... always will be. Don't think for one minute that a game like this can have good with out bad. Me leaving the mapping scene is because I am going back to work after one very long rest and recoop from serious and tramatizing injury.

I teach 9th grade art to kids at the age of 26 here in Maine. They are all very happy to see me back in the class room where I belong. I have ZERO problems with peoples thoughts now. Any problems I may have voiced were 150% linked to the my own personal problems coping with death. I'm sorry for bringing the worst in me to places where it didn't belong.

I really want to stress, as one of the last things I say here, that people need to lighten up and relax. I was once guilty of the same thing I'm not ashamed to admit it.

Some of my work may seem incomplete but then again I did work on 30 maps in a year so you do the math. Most of it was for fun so in all seriousness it's not ment to be seen as an achievment but more as a learning experience.

I want to thank those here that were always behind me, that always stood their ground and knew I was trying my best and never put me down once. I want to thank friends and foes alike for giving me what I needed to create my work. It's a great game... keep on fighting. I know I will.
DAAAAAAM

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 2:44 pm
by Trinitrotoluene
Gen Cobra wrote:I teach 9th grade art to kids at the age of 26 here in Maine.
I never knew that, how cool 8-)