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confused with 'ai tips' tut :(

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 8:15 pm
by m4rine
in the ai tips tut i'm having a bit of trouble deciding who's right - the author of the tut (who probably is based on the quality of all the other .map tuts) or the creaters of radiant.

the dispute is between the description of the pathnode flag 'CRATE'.

in the tut it says:
CRATE
Never used with any other flags, except possibly COVER. The COVER flag is assumed, so it is not necessary. Tells the AI to do special over-the-top attack behavior, as if he were behind a crate. The center of the node should be 16 units back from the crate. The node?s angles should point towards the crate.
however, in MOH Radiant's description (in the entity window) it says:
CRATE marks the node as a place to stand up and fire over; should always be used with DUCK
mmmm...... should i use the CRATE flag with DUCK or without? It happens with a few other things (though it doesn't say specifically not to use settings; just doesn't include what settings it should be used with) so which should i do?

one more thing - i looked at the top of the tut for the author to congratulate them but it was blank - it really is a great tutorial (as are all of the tuts - I wouldn't have lasted five minutes in the mapping world withut them!) - without it i would have never have known about the cool stuff like the flags on the pathnodes - and the tips for smarter ai is great! So whoever made it - thanks, it has helped me with my map loads.

any help would be (always is) much appreciated!

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:00 am
by jv_map
The AI tips tutorial ships with mohradiant and as such was written by someone at 2015 or EA. Anyway it doesn't really matter whether you use CRATE and DUCK or only CRATE.

CRATE is seen as an 'offensive' flag which allows an AI to do a special attack behaviour. DUCK is a defensive flag, an AI may run and crouch to this node when looking for cover. Thus, you can use CRATE and DUCK independently, in most cases both would be best.

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 10:16 pm
by m4rine
great thanks jv! I will use both cos that's what I wanted (defensive + offensive).