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Walk Thru Models

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:14 am
by Slopester
Hi
Could use some help here....

I'm dropping vehicles in my map (static/vehicles/europe etc) but when I render the map you can walk thru them (some have a solid core but not full car shape). I tried caulking some blocks where the models are but the cars explode (disappear) after enough shots, leaving invisible caulked walls where the vehicles no longer are.

Anyone know if i can solve this? Or just stop the vehicles taking damage so they never disappear? Then I can go with the caulking method....

For some reason, the green delivery truck is ok - all others aren't (silver car - tan car etc)

wisdom appreciated

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:30 am
by wacko
never heard of being able to blow up vehicles without scripting... maybe give them a high health value or maybe 0 for invulnerability works?

instead of the caulk brushes, you better use clip brushes
http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~map/mohaa/ ... truck+clip is about this topic

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:57 am
by omniscient
blwoing up w/o scripting! news to me. yea clip would be better that caul. try tagetnaming the walls and car. add something like

if($car isalive){
$wall show
else
$wall remove
}

i dunno if that is right syntax, if it isnt someone correct me

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:48 am
by Slopester
wow thx - some cool suggestions... I'll try some things out...
I never had cars explode on me before either (in other maps I built) but for some reason, hit em enuff and the explode. Well, they disappear and if you're too close you'll die - no actual explosion... strange.

Thx for help - will let u know outcome

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:57 am
by omniscient
hahaha, really wierd. its kill u huh? what model is it exactly?

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:17 am
by Gen Cobra
Happened to me 2. 2nd map I ever made. Clipped the cars and Id shoot them and they would vanish. Mercedes.

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 5:39 pm
by Slopester
These are the ones exploding on me:
static/vehicle/europe/car-gray
static/vehicle/europe/car-silver
static/vehicle/europe/car-tan

I haven't tried the Merc - will now tho and see what i get... And yeah, if you're too close when it blows, it'll take you out too!

I also notice that static/vehicle/europe/deliverytruck-green seems fine and behaves differently to those other models... No need to clip it - it just drops in like a solid object - also, in Radiant, it's represented by a purple rectangle (same size as truck) - where as all the others are represented by brown column in the models center. Any ideas on that? Are they different formats?

Some screenshots:

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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:55 pm
by jv_map
Are you sure you used static models in all cases? The vehicles under the vehicles -> german/american folder act differently than those under static -> vehicles.

Anyway typing the following key/values should fix the exploding/killing problem:

key / value
nodamage / (no value - just hit enter twice)
fullstop / (no value)

You need clip brushes to prevent players from walking / shooting through.

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 2:41 pm
by Slopester
Yeah they def from the static list... odd.

Thanks tho, the nodamage-fullstop thing worked magic. Big respect jv