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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 7:03 am
by kai0ty
i wont miss my chance to be the first to post again....
anyway when is the first competiton, i need some insentive to start a map?!

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 8:05 pm
by Axion
I'm doing my best to drum up an official draft of the rules and guidelines, so as soon as I can get that completed, I will have it posted here. Once that is done, we can begin with the first contest!

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:05 pm
by M&M
i almost posted the 1st post here but after writing a post and moving the mouse over submit .i thought id better not SPAM so i clikced the back button :P

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 9:22 pm
by echo_rancid
Hey Axion if you need or want some help with this Id be more than happy to help out. Sounds like this is going to become quite popular and organization will be very crucial. Let me know.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 9:25 am
by Krane
How can you say a map is "better" than the other?

How can you say a song is better than the other?

Which is the better movie?

Which is better? Red or Blue?

Taste is like a**: each one have it's own...

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 4:01 pm
by M&M
u know a map is better when u like it
and u know a map isnt good when u compare how much u've liked it with another map .
u like it when its fun to play,looks good ,and plays good .
maybe this should be the moto 4 the contest :D

anyways .maybe the groups or tems should work together to make map packs instead of just maps ,that way we can compare whole map packs and have several prizes
like
author of best map pack
author of best single map
so & so...

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 8:32 pm
by Krane
M&M wrote:u know a map is better when u like it
and u know a map isnt good when u compare how much u've liked it with another map .
u like it when its fun to play,looks good ,and plays good .
maybe this should be the moto 4 the contest :D
Again, it's up to u :wink: !

I like OpCenter a lot but snipers probably hate it...

Maybe a board w/ 2 snipers, 2 close-combat guys, 2 shotgunners, etc will work.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 10:30 pm
by blue60007
I told Axion I could help out in my little spare time. My guess would be there would have to be several judging categories:

Category I: A Technical Standpoint
a. performance (FPS)
b. Design (good VIS design, etc)
c. Brushwork (any overlaps, mitering, etc)
d. Texturing (self explanatory...)
e. Scenery (eye-candy...)

Category II: A Playability Standpoint
a. Sufficient cover
b. Sufficient offensive and defensive points (if it has obj's)
c. A good balance of snipering points, and areas for all weapons.
d. Balance for all weapons (not to many snipering areas or close range shotgunners)
e. Good for any number of players (so you can't get to crowded or spread too thin)

You would be scored out of 10 points in each sub-category and then you'd have a total of 100 points and thats your percentage. You could have several judges submit their scores and then average them together for the maps final score. You could then take the top 5 maps or 3 or whatever and do some more extensive testing and judging on it and resubmit their scores and find the top 2 or 3. Next you could do a vote on them, map with the most votes wins...

Just a thought...

EDIT: Also some other categories could be taking into account like:

Lighting
Flow
Overall fun
Originality
Scripting

I took a looksy at the reviews here at .map for these categories...

You could also do a weight system meaning some things may be worth more points based on their importance.

Also there could be several different leagues or whatever you want to call them like: Singleplayer, DM/TDM, OBJ, TOW, LIB, etc...

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 11:03 pm
by M&M
Again, it's up to u :wink: !
i like 2 type in shortcuts because its much more faster :P

anyways ,i am a sniper kind a guy and i liked opcenter alot .it was alot of fun (specially with the sniper) but ive never played it online b4.it was cool with the mg also

maybe we should move the discussion to here since this forum is all emtpy

i hope work on this thing starts .other than this forum i havent seen any observable work towards the contest yet

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 1:09 am
by blue60007
Like I said Axion I can help you make up rules or whatever...

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:24 am
by Axion
Yeah, I know.

I'm doing my best to get everything set up. I'm a college student and a swim/water polo coach, so I haven't had much spare time this week, but I am going to have something set up sometime this weekend.

After I have the first draft of the rules and everything posted, it will be open for revision and suggestions, so hang tight.

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 11:04 pm
by blue60007
OK, sound great!

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:46 am
by Bjarne BZR
blue60007... I think you forgot one map quality: How fun is the map to play?

That would be enough, no need for the other criteria :)

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:22 am
by blue60007
Oh yeah :oops: . I think the playablility category could be summed up into how fun it is, and is there a balance? Not too many snipers, assault teams, or rocketeers, etc... If you know what I mean...

Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:15 am
by Bjarne BZR
Yeah, I know what you mean. I just thought it was worth pointing out :)