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Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:45 pm**

okay, well i want to convert some awesome MP skins that can only be used for the player to Sp AI. because there are some truly good skins out there and i'd like to use them personally. i've downloaded a bunch but Small_Sumo seems to be the only one who knows how to create good SP AI skins. any help plz?

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:36 pm**

You need to create a custom tik. Open an existing SP AI tik and replace the parts concern to the new skin.

Ex: I have some ninja skins, both for players and bots. Here's the tik for the player skin:

TIKI
setup
{
scale 0.52
path models/human/allied_ranger_soldier // Set path to set skelmodel from
skelmodel assaultvest.skd // Set body model

surface ranger_pants shader Ninja_Black_pants
surface ranger_top shader NInja_Black_top
surface armband shader av_Ninja_Black

path models/human/heads
skelmodel head2.skd
surface head shader spy

path models/human/hands
skelmodel hand.skd
surface hand shader l_gloves

}

//
// define what folder to get specific sound from for the player model
//
$define pulloutdir sound/weapons/pullout

init
{
client
{
// Cache sounds here
}
server
{
voicetype airbone // set the voicetype to use for multiplayer instant messaging
}
}

//
// include the base player model definition
//
$include models/player/base/include.txt

// need to indicate the end of the tiki file because we have a tiki command at the end
//end

Now I'll open a regular SP AI (allied_airbone_soldier.tik)

TIKI
setup
{
scale 0.52
path models/human/allied_airborne // Set path to set skelmodel from
skelmodel airborne.skd // Set body model

surface shirt shader airborne_top
surface pants shader airborne_pants
surface sleeve shader airborne_top_cull

// path models/human/heads // Set new path for head model
// skelmodel head2.skd // Set head model
// surface head shader srg_dirty
$include models/human/heads/us_young_heads.tik

path models/human/hands
skelmodel hand.skd
surface hand shader handsnew

path models/equipment/USGear/airborne
skelmodel airborne_gear.skd
surface gear shader airborne_gear

path models/equipment/USGear/helmets
skelmodel us_helmet.skd
surface us_helmet shader blank_web

scale 0.52 // Set default scale to 16/30.5 since world is in 16 units per foot and model is in cm's
path models/human/protoanimations // Set path to set animations from

radius 20 // defines size of shadow
}

init
{
server
{
classname Actor
american
setsize "-16 -16 0" "16 16 92"
health 100
weapon "M1 Garand"

// Set up the helmet for popping off
// <model to spawn> <speed to throw it at> <damage multiplier for helmet shots> <surface(s) to turn off>
sethelmet "models/equipment/usgear/helmet_ranger_private.tik" 150 0.1 "us_helmet"
}
}

//
// include the base animations definition
//
$include models/human/new_generic_human.tik
$include models/human/animation/dialogue/generic_dialogue_US.tik
//$include models/human/animation/dialogue/m1l1_dialogue_us.tik

/*QUAKED ai_allied_airborne_soldier (1.0 0.5 0.0) (-16 -16 0) (16 16 96)
*/

Now the ninja SP AI:

TIKI
setup
{
scale 0.52
path models/human/allied_ranger_soldier // Set path to set skelmodel from
skelmodel assaultvest.skd // Set body model

surface ranger_pants shader Ninja_Black_pants
surface ranger_top shader NInja_Black_top
surface armband shader av_Ninja_Black

path models/human/heads
skelmodel head2.skd
surface head shader spy

path models/human/hands
skelmodel hand.skd
surface hand shader l_gloves

scale 0.52 // Set default scale to 16/30.5 since world is in 16 units per foot and model is in cm's
path models/human/protoanimations // Set path to set animations from

radius 20 // defines size of shadow
}

init
{
server
{
classname Actor
american
setsize "-16 -16 0" "16 16 92"
health 100
weapon "M1 Garand"

// Set up the helmet for popping off
// <model to spawn> <speed to throw it at> <damage multiplier for helmet shots> <surface(s) to turn off>
sethelmet "models/equipment/usgear/helmet_ranger_private.tik" 150 0.1 "us_helmet"
}
}

//
// include the base animations definition
//
$include models/human/new_generic_human.tik
$include models/human/animation/dialogue/generic_dialogue_US.tik
//$include models/human/animation/dialogue/m1l1_dialogue_us.tik

/*QUAKED ai_allied_ninja_black (1.0 0.5 0.0) (-16 -16 0) (16 16 96)
*/

Copy the green part over the yelow. Cyan is the result

Change the QUAKED part (violet) to match your new tik.

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:26 pm**

okay, noob Q, i open a .tik with Notepad right? sorry, i've only jsut started learning about al lthis....

Posted: **Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:37 pm**

Yeeahhh...When in doubt, use notepad.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:59 pm**

I wrote a tutorial on it at this page http://smallsumo.leveledit.com/moh_tutorials1.htm
You might have missed it, my site isnt the easiest to navigate ....... so I'm told

. Its quite easy follow the tut you will be fine.

Posted: **Tue Jun 29, 2004 6:50 pm**

well, i have the tiki files to mod into SP, but ihave no clue at all about the skin or anything like that, here is a sample....

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TIKI
setup
{
	path models/human/allied_ranger_soldier	// Set path to set skelmodel from
	skelmodel assaultvest.skd		// Set body model

	surface ranger_pants shader co_newboots
	surface ranger_top shader co_assaultvestcolonel
	surface armband shader 17thairb_army_sfc
	//surface us_top_c shader us_top_c

//	$include models/human/heads/us_old_heads.tik
	path models/human/heads
	skelmodel head4.skd
	surface head shader face_colonel

	path models/human/hands			
	skelmodel hand.skd		
	surface hand shader hands_luitenant

	path models/equipment/USGear/helmets
	skelmodel us_helmet.skd
	surface us_helmet shader helmet_col
}


//
// define what folder to get specific sound from for the player model
//
$define pulloutdir sound/weapons/pullout


init
{
	client
	{
		// Cache sounds here
	}
	server
	{
		voicetype airborne // set the voicetype to use for multiplayer instant messaging
	}
}


//
// include the base player model definition
//
$include models/player/base/include.txt

// need to indicate the end of the tiki file because we have a tiki command at the end
//end

and i'm thinking that i only need to add the Actor thing, so is this right?

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TIKI
setup
{
	path models/human/allied_ranger_soldier	// Set path to set skelmodel from
	skelmodel assaultvest.skd		// Set body model

	surface ranger_pants shader co_newboots
	surface ranger_top shader co_assaultvestcolonel
	surface armband shader 17thairb_army_sfc
	//surface us_top_c shader us_top_c

//	$include models/human/heads/us_old_heads.tik
	path models/human/heads
	skelmodel head4.skd
	surface head shader face_colonel

	path models/human/hands			
	skelmodel hand.skd		
	surface hand shader hands_luitenant

	path models/equipment/USGear/helmets
	skelmodel us_helmet.skd
	surface us_helmet shader helmet_col
}


//
// define what folder to get specific sound from for the player model
//
$define pulloutdir sound/weapons/pullout


init
{
	client
	{
		// Cache sounds here
	}
	server
	{
		voicetype airborne // set the voicetype to use for multiplayer instant messaging
	}
}


//
// include the base player model definition
//
$include models/player/base/include.txt

classname Actor 
american 
setsize "-16 -16 0" "16 16 92" 
health 100 
weapon "M1 Garand" 

// Set up the helmet for popping off 
// <model to spawn> <speed to throw it at> <damage multiplier for helmet shots> <surface(s) to turn off> 
sethelmet "models/equipment/usgear/helmet_ranger_private.tik" 150 0.1 "us_helmet" 
} 
} 

// 
// include the base animations definition 
// 
$include models/human/new_generic_human.tik 
$include models/human/animation/dialogue/generic_dialogue_US.tik 
//$include models/human/animation/dialogue/m1l1_dialogue_us.tik 

/*QUAKED ai_allied_airborne2_soldier (1.0 0.5 0.0) (-16 -16 0) (16 16 96) 
*/

??? i'm totally new to all this graphical stuff so hopefully when i get one finished it'll all snap into place.

Posted: **Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:55 pm**

Wel your getting there but it needs more ........... I think. What custom model do you want to convert?

Posted: **Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:48 pm**

it's a skin pack from Dagroove's Lair, it's only for personal use and won't be released so i won't hit any originality/copyright laws, the ORIGINAL .tik file is this.....

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TIKI
setup
{
	path models/human/allied_ranger_soldier	// Set path to set skelmodel from
	skelmodel assaultvest.skd		// Set body model

	surface ranger_pants shader co_newboots
	surface ranger_top shader co_assaultvestcolonel
	surface armband shader 17thairb_army_sfc
	//surface us_top_c shader us_top_c

//	$include models/human/heads/us_old_heads.tik
	path models/human/heads
	skelmodel head4.skd
	surface head shader face_colonel

	path models/human/hands			
	skelmodel hand.skd		
	surface hand shader hands_luitenant

	path models/equipment/USGear/helmets
	skelmodel us_helmet.skd
	surface us_helmet shader helmet_col
}


//
// define what folder to get specific sound from for the player model
//
$define pulloutdir sound/weapons/pullout


init
{
	client
	{
		// Cache sounds here
	}
	server
	{
		voicetype airborne // set the voicetype to use for multiplayer instant messaging
	}
}


//
// include the base player model definition
//
$include models/player/base/include.txt

// need to indicate the end of the tiki file because we have a tiki command at the end
//end

Posted: **Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:43 pm**

well it's done, i've gotten it to work after some quick debugging. thanx for all your help guys!

Posted: **Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:39 am**

Sorry mate I meant to get back to you. Here is how I would do the tik so it will work with my sumo_mp_new_generic_human.tik.

TIKI
setup
{
path models/human/allied_ranger_soldier // Set path to set skelmodel from
skelmodel assaultvest.skd // Set body model

surface ranger_pants shader co_newboots
surface ranger_top shader co_assaultvestcolonel
surface armband shader 17thairb_army_sfc
//surface us_top_c shader us_top_c

// $include models/human/heads/us_old_heads.tik
path models/human/heads
skelmodel head4.skd
surface head shader face_colonel

path models/human/hands
skelmodel hand.skd
surface hand shader hands_luitenant

path models/equipment/USGear/helmets
skelmodel us_helmet.skd
surface us_helmet shader helmet_col

scale 0.52 // Set default scale to 16/30.5 since world is in 16 units per foot and model is in cm's
path models/human/protoanimations // Set path to set animations from

radius 20 // defines size of shadow
}

init
{
server
{
classname Actor
american
setsize "-16 -16 0" "16 16 92"
health 100
weapon "M1 Garand"

// Set up the helmet for popping off
// <model to spawn> <speed to throw it at> <damage multiplier for helmet shots> <surface(s) to turn off>
sethelmet "models/equipment/usgear/helmet_ranger_private.tik" 150 0.1 "us_helmet"
}
}

//
// include the base animations definition
//
$include models/human/animation/dialogue/sumo_generic_dialogue_US.tik
$include models/human/sumo_mp_new_generic_human.tik

//$include models/human/animation/dialogue/m1l1_dialogue_us.tik

/*QUAKED ai_sumo_mymodelstolenfromdagrooveslairLOL (1.0 0.5 0.0) (-16 -16 0) (16 16 96)
*/

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Just remember you need these 2 files in your pk3 or your ai will crash the map.

$include models/human/animation/dialogue/sumo_generic_dialogue_US.tik
$include models/human/sumo_mp_new_generic_human.tik

Posted: **Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:36 pm**

okay, it didn't work my way, they were inanimate with half the skinning and noclipped.

i'll let you know if this works.....

Posted: **Thu Jul 08, 2004 2:10 pm**

Yeah do that I am interested, I want to help you over the line. Once you get it right you will be no stopping you.

Posted: **Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:20 pm**

is it possible for me to make them regular stock SP AI skins and not Sumo skins? they wouldn't even appear in mine. and yes i cecked that i downlaoded your fancypants ai pack.

but nothing appears........

can i just replace

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$include models/human/animation/dialogue/sumo_generic_dialogue_US.tik 
$include models/human/sumo_mp_new_generic_human.tik

with

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$include models/human/new_generic_human.tik 
$include models/human/animation/dialogue/generic_dialogue_US.tik 
//$include models/human/animation/dialogue/m1l1_dialogue_us.tik

?

not to mention i'd like this usable outside those who don't have the sumo pack.

Posted: **Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:26 pm**

Yeah that should be fine, but you wont have the omaha anims thats all. Remember you don't need my entire pack you only have to add the files your tik points to.

Code:

$include models/human/animation/dialogue/sumo_generic_dialogue_US.tik
$include models/human/sumo_mp_new_generic_human.tik

I wont ever be modifying those files so you can add them to any pk3 you release and your fans wont ever get a conflict because there should never be a different version of the above tiks.

Glad to hear your getting there.