Texture problem

Trinitrotoluene · Post by **Trinitrotoluene** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:34 pm

Ok, i made a brush, put a texture on it but some how i cant see the texture, its invissible. How can i fix it? I hear some stories about snap to grid but i am kinda nooooooooooooob lol...

tltrude · Post by **tltrude** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:53 pm

What texture is it? Are you using the Spearhead editor or Mohaa?

tltrude · Post by **tltrude** » Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:54 pm

What texture is it? Are you using the Spearhead editor or Mohaa?

Here is a thread about missing textures:
/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2998

Trinitrotoluene · Post by **Trinitrotoluene** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:11 pm

Ok sry for my late post, i meant this:

wacko · Post by **wacko** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:19 pm

I'd delete the brush and redo it.

maybe u have other, similar brushes in your map where all faces are drawn. then u could copy one of those and put it in the right place.

if this doesn't work, try to pull the whole construction a little bit further...

omniscient · Post by **omniscient** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:41 pm

are you texturing that face? if your not ti wont show. if you are just take a bruxh that does work and copy it over. use spacesbar not ctrl+c and ctrl+v

tltrude · Post by **tltrude** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 12:56 am

That happens sometime with brushes that are angled. If you move the face one grid unit, or change the angle by one degree, it may fix it.

Krane · Post by **Krane** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:51 pm

...and the old problem goes back again...

This is an old unsolved issue. Check this post

I think what tltrude said in an other post about "...too many brushes touching a single brush." is the better explanation until now.

But I'm still having the same problem.

Trinitrotoluene · Post by **Trinitrotoluene** » Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:54 pm

Thanks again for your help guys, il try your tips when i got time. When my noob map is done il put some review and download link on this forum somewhere.

and on ma mapping site

tltrude · Post by **tltrude** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:00 am

I have seen it, mostly, when I resize or rotate a brush. Remaking the brush by cutting it from a larger brush also helps sometimes. Other things to try:

Snap points to grid
Clamp plane points
Clone exact from another brush
Resize brush one unit larger
Pray to the Cyber God

crunch · Post by **crunch** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:17 am

@Krane:
What tltrude has suggested is a good start.
But there is one more thing to keep in mind when snapping to the grid.
It won't always correct the rendering error. The reason for this is that the missing brush face is caused by partially overlapping brushes, whether on the grid or not.
So after you snap to the grid, be sure NONE of the vertices from the "missing-faced" support beam brush are INSIDE the crossbeam brush. Adjust the vertices so that they butt up against the crossbeam. That tiny little overlap (even though all vertices are on the grid) will cause that missing face.

Kill Ya Later!

tltrude · Post by **tltrude** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 1:29 am

Yep, that problem has been around for a long time. Can someone make a prefab of brushes with missing faces and post it? Might want to include the brushes they touch too.

Krane · Post by **Krane** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 4:28 pm

Thanks curnch and tltrude.

crunch: everything is snaped to grid, nothing is inside anything and so on...
I think this problem is related to where the support brush is touching what...I have 2 towers touching the support beams (not inside). I tryed to "untouch" the brushes and the s*** remains there...

tltrude: Good idea making a prefab...actually I can do better: I can send you the map file. I need a visgroups expert to help me with this map and I heard you're good w/ this. What do you think?

tltrude · Post by **tltrude** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:29 pm

Sure, I'll look at it. But, I will only show you how/what your map needs--not do all the work for you.

>>tltrude@sbcglobal.net<<

Making a prefab, would be one way that everyone could work on the missing faces problem together.

Krane · Post by **Krane** » Fri Dec 05, 2003 10:22 pm

Thanks! I just want you to do the follow:

1) Take a ride on the map: get familiar with the arquitecture.

2) Open the map file. Check the vis groups brushes. See if they are well placed (this is extremely challenge

).

I've been thru dozens of combinations on how to place the groups: grouping every room, grouping large parts, etc...

You don't need to do the work for me, just tell me if you think I can save this map, cause the layout is beautifull but challenging. Actually I started this map cause I was tired of grey "compound" maps, full of corridors (we know why...) that their purpose is only to relief fps.

Should I send you just the map file or should I send a compiled version (bsp, scr, min, etc) among w/ the file?

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