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[D.o.G]FaDe2BlAcK · Post by **[D.o.G]FaDe2BlAcK** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:16 am

Thank you for the information! I just am not sure how those methods work because the tutorial that everything refers to (from The Storm) is no longer on a hosted website.

My theory on how the link /t.php?id=80 works is this:

My understanding is that when a player is in the vis textured area, they are in a zone A. When in zone A, the graphics engine will not draw the correlated area, zone B. So referring the the link above, my theory is that when one is in the red box (zone A), they will not be able to see any textures in the blue box (zone B).

If this is right, I think I may be able to pull this off because the player cannot see over the hill, allowing me to make VIS zones on either sides, and in the underground areas.

...but am I right about this process in the first place?

neillomax · Post by **neillomax** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:18 am

That's correct, players and buildings, etc. can't be seen but you also have to make sure that the vis brushes can't be seen by each other. They can be any height, width, shape etc. Figure out where you need your vis, putting them in and then use the "targeting" method to "hide" the areas you can't see from where you are.

forgot to tell you. you can have 10 or more vis brushes and only have 1 target all the rest if need be.

Cpt. Duke · Post by **Cpt. Duke** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:23 am

neillomax is correct.

When a player is in Zone A, all entities, brushes, terrain, patches, ect. in Zone B are not drawn. When the player steps out Zone A, Everything is Zone B reappears.

Just make sure Zone A and Zone B target each other in both directions. Also make sure they are both vis_leafgroups.

[D.o.G]FaDe2BlAcK · Post by **[D.o.G]FaDe2BlAcK** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:02 pm

Thank you guys so much, I'll get working on this now as a matter of fact!

Just two more questions:

Do I make these VIS brushes hollow structures or full boxes?

How do I set multiple targets? By comma separation in the target value box?

neillomax · Post by **neillomax** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:38 pm

vis are solid cubes or triangles or slant, etc. Whatever shape you make them.

i haven't done this for a while so read the tute. You make your vis brush and right click in the 2d window and look for vis leafgroup. deselect the brush. do that for all that you make. when you select one ( that the player will be in ) you then hold the shift key ( I THINK ) and select whatever other vis "boxes" you want to target and hit "K". deselect. I think that's how it works. doing that will target the other vis brushes and should ,make those areas undrawn from the position the player is in. re-read the tute.

[D.o.G]FaDe2BlAcK · Post by **[D.o.G]FaDe2BlAcK** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:31 pm

Sounds great, thanks!

Cpt. Duke · Post by **Cpt. Duke** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:04 pm

[D.o.G]FaDe2BlAcK wrote:How do I set multiple targets? By comma separation in the target value box?

No comma needed.

Example:

vis2 vis3

neillomax · Post by **neillomax** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:17 pm

they come up automatically when using the cntl or shift "K" method.

[D.o.G]FaDe2BlAcK · Post by **[D.o.G]FaDe2BlAcK** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:31 am

I'm selecting all of the brushes I want to be non-visible to each other and pressing "K" but the color functioning comes up. What exactly am I looking for here? Maybe I could find it if I knew.

Basically what is happening is I cant set more than one target because they keep getting replaced. So if I set the key/value to target/alliestrench and then try and set another key/value to target/alliesspawn, then the target/alliesspawn would replace the target/alliestrench.

Perhaps you know this, Duke, but I can't seem to figure your example out. It's all kinda confusing to me, I apologize

Cpt. Duke · Post by **Cpt. Duke** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:48 am

Pressing K will just bring up the color options. To connect one entity to another, press CTRL + K You can also disconnect entities by pressing CTRL + ALT + K.

Here's how to set up multiple targets for an entity the old fashion way

Let's say vis1 is the first vis_leafgroup, vis2 is the second, and vis3 is the third. If you want vis1 to target both vis2 and vis3, give vis1 the following key/value pair:

target/vis3 vis2

notice how both targetnames are included?

neillomax · Post by **neillomax** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:45 am

The quickest way would be to select your first vis brush, then select the second- hit cntl k and deselect. Then pick your first vis brush again and select your second vis brush.... deselect. should be easiest that way. no typing.

neillomax · Post by **neillomax** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:46 am

The quickest way would be to select your first vis brush, then select the second- hit cntl k and deselect. Then pick your first vis brush again and select your third vis brush.... deselect. should be easiest that way. no typing. still get targetnames.

[D.o.G]FaDe2BlAcK · Post by **[D.o.G]FaDe2BlAcK** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:46 am

Awesome! Thank you both very much, thanks to you I am certain this will work.

neillomax · Post by **neillomax** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:33 pm

I just did it. Had to familiarize. You select one of your vis leaf groups then you select however many others you want to target and you hit cntl k..... it targets them all and gives target names. ( N ) entity box.

punisher2202 · Post by **punisher2202** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:09 pm

any help ??